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Todd_Harry08
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:16 pm
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>It doesn't fall apart as aggressively as their recent, unforgivably poor Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer adaptation.
Jumondno is the one did mostly produced the animation of Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer while the only thing NAZ did with it was the photography and the animation production of the second opening for the second cour as they were busy with Good Night World for a while and also Sabikui Bisco under the name of OZ in relation to its staff.
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Wyvern
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:21 pm
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Pico was this show's saving grace for me. She had an energy and emotional earnestness that most of the main cast lacked. The revelation of her being an AI and subsequent death were brutal and deeply felt, easily the best part of the series. But the show didn't quite know how to handle itself without her, and the rest was fine but unremarkable.
Also, it bugged me how we never got to see the family do any actual RPG stuff beyond the first five minutes of the series. They're supposed to be the most feared party in the game but that's completely built up through dialogue and nothing more. After Ichi kills that big dragon at the start, the show shifts over to guild politics and we never see the family actually do any adventuring together. The mom almost vanishes completely until the last few episodes. There's just a weird amount of focus on the pirate guild given that it becomes completely irrelevant after episode six, as does everything else in the game. But like I said, their leader is the best character on the show so maybe it was for the best.
Also, you know what bugged me but doesn't really matter? Why does the opening sequence use a newspaper aesthetic? It has nothing to do with the plot of the show, and feels like a weird choice for a show about futuristic media. Was it related to the theme song lyrics (which Netflix didn't bother to translate?)
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camseyeview140
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 8:48 pm
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For me, when it felt like it was about a broken family using an MMO to bond and fix their familial ties, was when it was at its best.
When it went into world-ending stuff, it lost me. Went downhill fast after that.
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Philmister978
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:50 am
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Todd_Harry08 wrote: | >It doesn't fall apart as aggressively as their recent, unforgivably poor Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer adaptation.
Jumondno is the one did mostly produced the animation of Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer while the only thing NAZ did with it was the photography and the animation production of the second opening for the second cour as they were busy with Good Night World for a while and also Sabikui Bisco under the name of OZ in relation to its staff. |
Yeah, and you can tell. NAZ definitely would have either called for delays, or fired Jumondo for another team outright if they actually paid closer attention.
Shows like Lucifer is why not many of these outsource studios even try to break into being lead producers more often, as very few of them have any real success despite their longevity in the industry.
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TheSleepyMonkey
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2024 9:14 pm
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Philmister978 wrote: |
Todd_Harry08 wrote: | >It doesn't fall apart as aggressively as their recent, unforgivably poor Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer adaptation.
Jumondno is the one did mostly produced the animation of Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer while the only thing NAZ did with it was the photography and the animation production of the second opening for the second cour as they were busy with Good Night World for a while and also Sabikui Bisco under the name of OZ in relation to its staff. |
Yeah, and you can tell. NAZ definitely would have either called for delays, or fired Jumondo for another team outright if they actually paid closer attention.
Shows like Lucifer is why not many of these outsource studios even try to break into being lead producers more often, as very few of them have any real success despite their longevity in the industry. |
I don't think asking for delays or even trying to "salvage" the anime by redoing the work themselves was really an option. Mizukami mentioned in a now deleted tweet that someone big was originally in charge, and that both their arrival and departure resulted in production crashes; and the first actual details for Lucifer's anime came out incredibly close to it's release date, showing how little time they had.
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2024 9:21 am
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Here's the twist in my head: the girl of the online family wasn't his mother, it was his dead sister. Which would have sent the series going in an interesting direction.
Instead, it didn't and it wasn't, end of story. Literally end of story, which is something I usually don't say but this show was so ham fisted in everything else that doing what they did, lives turning virtual would have made more sense than life becoming virtual, was the absolutely most wrong thing they could have done.
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Todd_Harry08
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:21 pm
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Philmister978 wrote: |
Todd_Harry08 wrote: | >It doesn't fall apart as aggressively as their recent, unforgivably poor Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer adaptation.
Jumondno is the one did mostly produced the animation of Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer while the only thing NAZ did with it was the photography and the animation production of the second opening for the second cour as they were busy with Good Night World for a while and also Sabikui Bisco under the name of OZ in relation to its staff. |
Yeah, and you can tell. NAZ definitely would have either called for delays, or fired Jumondo for another team outright if they actually paid closer attention.
Shows like Lucifer is why not many of these outsource studios even try to break into being lead producers more often, as very few of them have any real success despite their longevity in the industry. |
Nope the Production Schedule was probably demanding for NAZ so they made Jumondo do the work for them to focus on what they have else.
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Todd_Harry08
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:23 pm
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TheSleepyMonkey wrote: |
Philmister978 wrote: |
Todd_Harry08 wrote: | >It doesn't fall apart as aggressively as their recent, unforgivably poor Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer adaptation.
Jumondno is the one did mostly produced the animation of Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer while the only thing NAZ did with it was the photography and the animation production of the second opening for the second cour as they were busy with Good Night World for a while and also Sabikui Bisco under the name of OZ in relation to its staff. |
Yeah, and you can tell. NAZ definitely would have either called for delays, or fired Jumondo for another team outright if they actually paid closer attention.
Shows like Lucifer is why not many of these outsource studios even try to break into being lead producers more often, as very few of them have any real success despite their longevity in the industry. |
I don't think asking for delays or even trying to "salvage" the anime by redoing the work themselves was really an option. Mizukami mentioned in a now deleted tweet that someone big was originally in charge, and that both their arrival and departure resulted in production crashes; and the first actual details for Lucifer's anime came out incredibly close to it's release date, showing how little time they had. |
probably the case as that what made the production schedule worse later on.
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