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Blanchimont
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 6:55 pm
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Good for her.
Considering how there's no historic or religious stigma against homosexuality in Japan, it's baffling they're so behind on this aspect...
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TsukasaElkKite
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:57 pm
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That’s fantastic!
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Kakegurui
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 10:44 pm
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That's amazing. Good for her!
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MFrontier
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 11:27 pm
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That's awesome! I have great respect for her now.
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-Matthew-
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:40 am
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Great news! I am so glad she does so good for LGBT rights!
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-Matthew-
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:07 am
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Great news! She did an amazing for them!
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SHD
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:19 am
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I'm not a fan of this manga (and 'm still lamenting how tragically overlooked Papa to oyaji no uchigohan is even with all the hype around CheriMaho) but now I'm happy that the movie got made and that Toyota is awesome enough to donate so much of her income to a good cause.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:25 pm
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Blanchimont wrote: | Considering how there's no historic or religious stigma against homosexuality in Japan, it's baffling they're so behind on this aspect... |
This comment is a bit shortsighted because it implies another culture is inherently inferior because they lack some historical or religious basis for maintaining their overall position on this aspect. Im not saying accept whatever basis makes homosexuality abhorrent to Japanese but it is strongly tied to their culture and it does have historical groundings in fact. Im not going to speculate about it but I do want to advise not to respond to intolerance with more intolerance.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:50 pm
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Past wrote: | [Im not saying accept whatever basis makes homosexuality abhorrent to Japanese but it is strongly tied to their culture and it does have historical groundings in fact. |
Japan historically never had the stigma to homosexuality vs the Christian-influenced West, and historic art in Japan is full of depictions of such relationships, as well as what we know of Japan's past contradicts your point, so your comment about it being 'abhorrent' historically and culturally doesn't make any sense. So if you want to prove your point, what facts exactly?
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 9:20 pm
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My point was not to prove anything, it was to encourage a better choice of words on this sensitive topic where people from different cultures perceive sexuality in completely different ways. I think to limit it in terms such as history and religion only is in itself ingenious and insensitive. There are other complex cultural aspects at play.
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D-arts
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 3:47 am
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Even if you donate, these things can't be made legal in Japan, as many of the top politicians doesn't care about these stuff and always avoid such discussions in important arenas. Same sex marriage will be impossible in Japan for next 50 years. More you become old more people gives priority to economy and security instead of such things. Sem sex marriage advocates are mostly rich people's pretending hobby in Japan and support of some audience doesn't really matter.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:55 am
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D-arts wrote: | Even if you donate, these things can't be made legal in Japan, as many of the top politicians doesn't care about these stuff and always avoid such discussions in important arenas. Same sex marriage will be impossible in Japan for next 50 years. More you become old more people gives priority to economy and security instead of such things. Sem sex marriage advocates are mostly rich people's pretending hobby in Japan and support of some audience doesn't really matter. |
Of course it won't change if you give up from the get go. The discussion has to start from somewhere before it leads to change. Just because you say it will be impossible doesn't mean it will, how were the views on same sex marriage in the West 50 years ago? Look how far we've gone, and it's largely thanks to small campaigns like this, pushing back the mostly religious agenda at the time.
Also, claiming same sex advocacy is only a rich people hobby is a ridiculous statement, marriage infers various legal rights, and people's sexual orientation doesn't change with age, rich OR poor. It's simply a question of fairness.
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