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#894822
Joined: 08 Apr 2019
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:18 pm
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Oh no
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Kougeru
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:24 pm
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Still feels weird that a company so involved is hosting the awards. Conflict of interest . "this show won [award]! Watch it on our site!"
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Яeverse
Joined: 16 Jun 2014
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Location: Indianapolis
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:44 pm
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Demon Slayer or Dr. Stone to take over most of the awards, watch. Though at least Demon Slayer animation wise will be an actual believable win vs some more wonkier shows that have been there.
TeamSarazanmai for some awards, I guess Stars Align though it has some issues with handling its large cast in so few episodes.
And TeamFireForceBorutoBLackClover
Given for my anime of the year.
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Scion Drake
Joined: 25 Nov 2017
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:39 pm
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Time to see people go apeshit over a popularity contest again.
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Lactobacillus yogurti
Joined: 17 Aug 2011
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Location: Latin America
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 6:41 pm
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Pesos to churros BnHA is winning again
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12Zwolf12
Joined: 18 Jul 2019
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:04 pm
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The categories are still wonky af.
Maybe the best idea would be to change all the categories to honor the people behind the work, so people that have no idea would stop creating a popularity contest instead of a quality contest.
Instead of 'best boy/girl' which are bad in so many ways (at least they could make it 'best female/male character') make it 'best character designer' or 'best character writer' and make it not clear for what show a name stands for. So people that want to vote would at least have to research a name if they want to vote for their favorite show instead of the quality of the content.
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VoidSeeker
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:28 pm
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Scion Drake wrote: | Time to see people go apeshit over a fan-event again. |
>fan-event
>Crunchyroll
Yeah right. It obviously isn't a popularity circlejerk event with literal who's to promote their garbage service.
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Scion Drake
Joined: 25 Nov 2017
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:36 pm
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VoidSeeker wrote: |
Scion Drake wrote: | Time to see people go apeshit over a fan-event again. |
>fan-event
>Crunchyroll
Yeah right. It obviously isn't a popularity circlejerk event with literal who's to promote their garbage service. |
Heh, Ya know they don’t really need to try to promote when there are good people like you willing to spread the news for free.
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fantaselion
Joined: 22 Dec 2016
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:44 pm
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Scion Drake wrote: |
VoidSeeker wrote: |
Scion Drake wrote: | Time to see people go apeshit over a fan-event again. |
>fan-event
>Crunchyroll
Yeah right. It obviously isn't a popularity circlejerk event with literal who's to promote their garbage service. |
Heh, Ya know they don’t really need to try to promote when there are good people like you willing to spread the news for free. |
Yea cause this comment section is where people go to for news.
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Cardcaptor Takato
Joined: 27 Jan 2018
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:34 pm
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Every award ceremony is a popularity contest including the Oscars. But last year’s anime of the year was Devilman Crybaby which was a Netflix show and the year before that was Made in Abyss which was Amazon. Even My Hero Academia is a Funimation license. So the notion Crunchyroll has a conflict of interest is not backed up by the evidence.
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Fenrin
Joined: 19 Dec 2015
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:14 am
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I hope they keep Best OP/ED and Best VA Performance, those were my favorite categories and something I could easily vote on without actually having watched the anime
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Erufailon4
Joined: 18 Jun 2019
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 8:49 am
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Quote: | judges' votes are weighted 70/30 to influence the eventual winners |
Sorry but I'm a bit confused by this wording. Does this mean that the judges' votes weigh 70% and the audience votes 30%, or vice versa?
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DavetheUsher
Joined: 19 May 2014
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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:43 pm
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Kougeru wrote: | Still feels weird that a company so involved is hosting the awards. Conflict of interest . "this show won [award]! Watch it on our site!" |
All award shows are publicity stunts, just some more blatant than others. I never actually watched the Crunchyroll awards before, but do they play ads/announcements at it? I mean, people like to rag on the Oscars and stuff, but at least those aren't like the Game Awards where company CEOs come out and run promos for their upcoming games. It's like if James Cameron walked out on stage at the Oscars and plays the trailer for his upcoming film and talked about it for ten minutes. That's just advertising that that point
But just looking at last years nominees, I wouldn't say there's a conflict of interest so much as there's obviously judges pushing for specific shows and characters to get recognized that clearly don't reflect the actual anime fandom. But that's just the name of the game for these things really.
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kotomikun
Joined: 06 May 2013
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Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 3:25 am
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DavetheUsher wrote: | But just looking at last years nominees, I wouldn't say there's a conflict of interest so much as there's obviously judges pushing for specific shows and characters to get recognized that clearly don't reflect the actual anime fandom. |
What's the alternative, though? If we let the judges pick, everyone complains that they're biased. If the audience has more say, everyone complains that it's a popularity contest.
Thing is, neither of those complaints are wrong... there isn't any practical way to take the output of a whole industry or subculture or whatever and decide which ones had the Best This or Best That. It's hard enough to run something like the Nobel Prizes, where there's far too many options but at least there are tangible reasons why some might matter more than others. When the criteria are all 100% subjective, there can't really be a "right" answer in most cases. But we want this sort of thing to be possible so badly that we keep trying to make it happen... and, well, the inevitable arguments only create more publicity. There's a reason a large portion of Youtube is just top-ten videos.
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