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Actar
Joined: 21 Nov 2010
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Location: Singapore
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:26 pm
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Out of curiosity, is there a way to keep track of signing events in Japan? Do they do these kinds of events often?
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Marzan
Joined: 29 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:45 pm
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Good story>great art No worries sensei
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Miskos3
Joined: 08 May 2014
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:50 pm
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Marzan wrote: | Good story>great art No worries sensei |
Besides, he's improved so much when compared to the early chapters
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YROSHIKU
Joined: 05 Feb 2017
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:25 pm
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As much as I hate his drawing style I really respect the guy for being this humble.
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Ashen Phoenix
Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:28 pm
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Miskos3 wrote: |
Marzan wrote: | Good story>great art No worries sensei |
Besides, he's improved so much when compared to the early chapters |
Agreed. Yes, his artwork wasn't the most polished when the series began but the strength of the story more than made up for it. Plus, he's improved immensely since that time.
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relyat08
Joined: 20 Mar 2013
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:28 pm
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I guess he never thought about co-producing his work with a good artist, huh?
He could have just looked for an artist to work with. I don't mind his art, it's totally fine. But if he's that depressed about it, there is certainly no reason he can't get someone else to do it. It might have been a little tricky at first, but these days, he'd have more than a few people chomping at the bit, I'm sure.
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SageModeKakarot
Joined: 15 Dec 2014
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:07 pm
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Ashen Phoenix wrote: |
Miskos3 wrote: |
Marzan wrote: | Good story>great art No worries sensei |
Besides, he's improved so much when compared to the early chapters |
Agreed. Yes, his artwork wasn't the most polished when the series began but the strength of the story more than made up for it. Plus, he's improved immensely since that time. |
precisely my thoughts, at the start it was very rough but has improved a lot since he started
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Fenrin
Joined: 19 Dec 2015
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:39 pm
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Aw poor guy
I'm fond of seeing his development though because it reminds me of the webcomic artists I've followed over the years and the drastic changes their styles went through.
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Sergorn
Joined: 17 Aug 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:49 pm
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relyat08 wrote: | I guess he never thought about co-producing his work with a good artist, huh?
He could have just looked for an artist to work with. I don't mind his art, it's totally fine. But if he's that depressed about it, there is certainly no reason he can't get someone else to do it. It might have been a little tricky at first, but these days, he'd have more than a few people chomping at the bit, I'm sure. |
For some reasons it seems like having a writer/artist pair is just not much of a thing in Japan. I mean there are exceptions sure (like Riku Sanjo/Koji Inada of Dragon Quest/Beet fame), but for the vast majority, mangaka will just do both story and art even when in some case art is not their strong point (and that was possibly even truer way back in the 70s/80s leading to anime adaptation often looking better than their manga counterpart).
I'm just not sure why this isn't much of a thing. In term of say Japanse or Europeans comics books it's pretty much the opposite where it's rarer to have the artist and the writer me the same.
-Sergorn
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Freakmasta
Joined: 27 Dec 2010
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:58 pm
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I know he's a fan of MMA so I enjoy his art when he does Eren vs. Titan matches.
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mrsatan
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Joined: 06 Jul 2005
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:56 pm
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Sergorn wrote: | For some reasons it seems like having a writer/artist pair is just not much of a thing in Japan. I mean there are exceptions sure (like Riku Sanjo/Koji Inada of Dragon Quest/Beet fame), but for the vast majority, mangaka will just do both story and art even when in some case art is not their strong point (and that was possibly even truer way back in the 70s/80s leading to anime adaptation often looking better than their manga counterpart).
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I don't really think that's true. Many of my favorite classic manga were done by two people (Fist of the North Star, Kinnikuman). It seemed to me like half the manga produced are solo and the other half are collaborations. One Punch Man is a recent popular writer/artist combo. As is The Heroic Legend of Arslan.
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Sergorn
Joined: 17 Aug 2007
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:13 pm
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Quote: | One Punch Man is a recent popular writer/artist combo. As is The Heroic Legend of Arslan. |
That's not quite true in these cases.
Yoshiki Tanaka is credited on Arslan true, but he's not writing the manga, he's credited because he's the original of the manga. Arakawa is doing both the plot and the writing of the manga adaptation.
Ditto for ONE and Murata as I recall. ONE does the original webcomic, but Murata writes and draw the manga.
Side note : Japan actually tend to use the exact same term of Gensaku for both "Original Creator" and "Writer" for manga credits. This sometimes leads to some issue having original creators credited as writers in translated work even when that isn't the case (we had the case on several Saint Seiya mangas in France where Masami Kurumada ended up credited as writer for a while), so we shouldn't assume this necesarilly means the "Gensaku" is the writer of the manga. This is dumb but that's how it is.
That being said I have over 1200 mangas at home with dozens and dozens and series, and very few of them have a writer/artist pair. So I stand with my assesment.
-Sergorn
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taster of pork
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:59 pm
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The only reason why I haven't read much of the Attack on Titan manga is because I don't like the art style. I plan reading more, one of these days. Maybe when they release more of the big editions.
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Yuza
Joined: 15 Jan 2017
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:01 pm
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relyat08 wrote: | I guess he never thought about co-producing his work with a good artist, huh?
He could have just looked for an artist to work with. I don't mind his art, it's totally fine. But if he's that depressed about it, there is certainly no reason he can't get someone else to do it. It might have been a little tricky at first, but these days, he'd have more than a few people chomping at the bit, I'm sure. |
At this point I don't think the fans would accept someone else drawing it, because style is hard to replicate and no one wants to watch an imitator who could always be drawing their own style. He still wants to draw the manga, he's just frustrated with his skills. Handing over your own manga to someone else just hurts your pride, your credibility and your wallet since splitting the money also becomes a problem.
He could have looked for an artist to work with in the beginning, but finding someone who you can actually trust to draw your story is difficult. Writing takes up way less time and money than drawing, and when you do get serialized the issue of payment can destroy a partnership. Also, he might really like drawing too, even if he isn't that good at it yet.
I think they were willing to publish him in the first place because his art showed potential and was perfectly serviceable, and if you draw every day trying to meet a deadline you're going to get better. His mindset shows he wants to improve too, so he has a good attitude as well.
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sarroush
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:25 pm
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He should lament what he did in Chapter 93 instead.
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