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Narutofreak1412
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:06 pm
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Gen Urobuchi, Hiroyuki Sawano, T.M. Revolution...
These are really high quality names - It makes me somewhat exited for this, even if it seems like a puppet promotion show.
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Alabaster Spectrum
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:10 pm
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You know Sony when you use the same names over and over and over and over and over and over and over it really starts to lose it's impact fast even if they're popular for commercial reasons. We didn't even get one season without Hiroyuki Sawano. Most overused composer in the history of the medium bar none without question. Now we get two bloody shows with T.M Revolution as well who is starting to get way overpromoted again even if I kind of liked him at one point. I mean I get it, I know the producers think people won't watch the puppet show commercial even with an overpromoted name like Urobuchi so they need another even more overpromoted name but give the benefit of the doubt once in a while before you homogenize absolutely everything to the same damn few names over and over. This could have been a kind of interesting alternative project and way to promote a Taiwanese cultural tradition overseas, now it's sounding like it's going to be the same damn tired thing we've been getting far too much of late homogenized to Sony's popular trendy name pushing. Damn shame for Pili.
Narutofreak1412 wrote: | Gen Urobuchi, Hiroyuki Sawano, T.M. Revolution...
These are really high quality names - It makes me somewhat exited for this, even if it seems like a puppet promotion show. |
I'm not sure I would call any of those names high quality at this point. Too overpromoted, not enough actual recent hits in recent memory. It's just combining popular people yet again too try to get them to watch something they almost certainly would never take a second glance at otherwise which IMO just shows how shallow all of this has become. All of them just kind of roll the same ideas or sounds over and over again so they've stopped being that interesting to me. Really the only interesting thing I could possibly see here is how the director might operate the puppets to convey the concept of motion. I mean I've seen some Pili Puppet theater before and if it's like it usually is it's probably just going to make a lot of people dizzy and confused.
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Knoepfchen
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:16 pm
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I'm not the world's biggest fan of the composer's "let's be very loud and very dramatic" approach to every emotion in previous and current, but I'm still very much intrigued by this premise, and let's be honest, this is looking like it's going to be a Dramatic show, so Sawano will probably feel very much at home. Also: awesome cast!
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Alabaster Spectrum
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 2:40 pm
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Knoepfchen wrote: | I'm not the world's biggest fan of the composer's "let's be very loud and very dramatic" approach to every emotion in previous and current, but I'm still very much intrigued by this premise, and let's be honest, this is looking like it's going to be a Dramatic show, so Sawano will probably feel very much at home. Also: awesome cast! |
More like vocal tracks vocal tracks vocal tracks cause that's the new thing with Sawano versus dramatic tracks. I was fine with the guy when he just did dramatic tracks, but that hasn't been the case since Attack on Titan since he started his [NzK] vocal collaboration project thing in 2014 and now he just does concept albums that are slapped onto a show as a soundtrack because he is trendy and we can't even go one season without a new one that sounds far too much like the last one. He's literally on a soundtrack a TV season pace since 2014, it's beyond way too much exposure and time to give other people a try for big promotion action stuff again at this point. He's already up to his number of credited "soundtracks" for the entire year of 2015 already and it's only June.
Anyway people watch shows just because of the same absurdly small handful of names (that haven't done anything truly interesting or groundbreaking in years IMO) over and over again for what feels like this entire decade so far and it is what it is and will probably continue like this from this point on indefinitely because somehow it still works. I really just want to see some new person enter this industry at some point and shake things up from this monotony already because at this point we might as well call the 2010's a void decade for Japanese animation.
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KH91
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:07 pm
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Narutofreak1412 wrote: | Gen Urobuchi, Hiroyuki Sawano, T.M. Revolution...
These are really high quality names - It makes me somewhat exited for this, even if it seems like a puppet promotion show. |
and the cast compels me to watch this even more. Just got to be open minded about the puppet thing.
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Alabaster Spectrum
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:19 pm
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KH91 wrote: |
Narutofreak1412 wrote: | Gen Urobuchi, Hiroyuki Sawano, T.M. Revolution...
These are really high quality names - It makes me somewhat exited for this, even if it seems like a puppet promotion show. |
and the cast compels me to watch this even more. Just got to be open minded about the puppet thing. |
The puppet thing is the actual interesting part for me because it's fresh and under-explored animation technique. The staff are the part that's dreadfully dull and is probably going to limit the project in reality. The cast seems fine. The best thing that could possibly come out of this is more interest in a Taiwanese cultural tradition which would be great for Pili, but I just doubt it since it seems like they are just piling more of the same old popular names onto it and that's the only reason anybody is going to watch it. I doubt anyone even pays attention to the stop motion and camera technique Pili uses to give their puppets the illusion of active motion and just makes the discussion all about Urobuchi's "genius" writing and Sawano's "genius" composition the second the first episode hits even if it's probably just the same stuff we've been getting from both for years.
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Selipse
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:20 pm
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Okay, get real. Sawano has only done Kabaneri so far this year. Last year he only did Seraph and continued Aldnoah. Don't forget we get around THIRTY shows a season. No, the guy is not literally everywhere and he certainly doesn't take away any chances for other composers to shine.
Preferences are another story, but I don't think he's stale at all. His popularity is well deserved.
As for Urobuchi, I can see why some people are iffy on the praises he receives when he's involved somewhere. He's only really written Madoka and Psycho-Pass, after all. (Well, and Fate/Zero's source material. I'd say that's deserved too.) The stuff he does actually write is pretty good, though, so if he's really writing this, I'm excited.
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:15 pm
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Selipse wrote: | Okay, get real. Sawano has only done Kabaneri so far this year. Last year he only did Seraph and continued Aldnoah. |
He also did Nanatsu no Taizai which aired at the same time as Aldnoah's second cour. Also whether he deserves it or not is debatable. In my opinion, he has recycled his tracks ever since his worked on Gundam Unicorn which was by far his best work.
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Shirohae
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:07 pm
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Wow this looks well done. Amazing! and omg Sawano gonna compose this!?! awesome..I guess i'm the only fan of s=Sawano lol
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Aquaregia99
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:06 pm
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Anyone else get reminded of Being Jon Malkovich whenever news of this show comes up?
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EastN3
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:51 pm
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Alabaster Spectrum wrote: |
Anyway people watch shows just because of the same absurdly small handful of names (that haven't done anything truly interesting or groundbreaking in years IMO) over and over again for what feels like this entire decade so far and it is what it is and will probably continue like this from this point on indefinitely because somehow it still works. I really just want to see some new person enter this industry at some point and shake things up from this monotony already because at this point we might as well call the 2010's a void decade for Japanese animation. |
That's the main reason I was so hyped for Death Parade last year, it was bringing new blood into the industry. Being one of, if not the best, show last year, I hoped this would encourage studios to give fresher hands a chance at the helm. I guess not. It's the same old names shoved into 2 shows a seasons, especially writers. If I see another Mari Okada penned show, I'll jump out a window. And Urobuchi needs to sit down and really think out a story before he decides to get us all hyped. He was on a roll with Madoka, Fate/Zero, and Psycho-pass, but now when I see his name I don't care. I guess the industry is following the same crash course the Japanese population rate is. Everybody's getting old and there's nobody to replace them.
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azhanei
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:48 pm
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And then there are people like me who recognize three names out of the whole cast/crew list given. I'm completely in for this because of the puppets and the teaser footage actually looks intriguing.
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Thread_Alchemist
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 12:45 am
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I'm super excited about this show. I'm really hoping that it get's a U.S. stream. It reminds me of Bunraku and I want to see some behind the scenes stuff. Photos, interviews with the puppeteers. I'll take anything.
Most of all though I'm really hoping that this becomes popular enough that Volks would consider doing a tie in with their ball jointed dolls. I would love to own some of these guys. They just look so awesome!
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JONJONAUG
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:04 am
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EastN3 wrote: |
Alabaster Spectrum wrote: |
Anyway people watch shows just because of the same absurdly small handful of names (that haven't done anything truly interesting or groundbreaking in years IMO) over and over again for what feels like this entire decade so far and it is what it is and will probably continue like this from this point on indefinitely because somehow it still works. I really just want to see some new person enter this industry at some point and shake things up from this monotony already because at this point we might as well call the 2010's a void decade for Japanese animation. |
That's the main reason I was so hyped for Death Parade last year, it was bringing new blood into the industry. Being one of, if not the best, show last year, I hoped this would encourage studios to give fresher hands a chance at the helm. I guess not. It's the same old names shoved into 2 shows a seasons, especially writers. If I see another Mari Okada penned show, I'll jump out a window. And Urobuchi needs to sit down and really think out a story before he decides to get us all hyped. He was on a roll with Madoka, Fate/Zero, and Psycho-pass, but now when I see his name I don't care. I guess the industry is following the same crash course the Japanese population rate is. Everybody's getting old and there's nobody to replace them. |
I'm curious what made you not care. The only other anime he made after those was Gargantia, and Kamen Rider Gaim is widely considered to be really good. Expelled From Paradise had good reviews as well, but that was actually written before Madoka was started and was in production hell for a good few years because of technological issues.
Not sure what's stale about "Taiwanese Wuxia Puppets" either because nothing like this has come out of the Japanese anime industry before.
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Kruszer
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:07 pm
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Shirohae wrote: | Wow this looks well done. Amazing! and omg Sawano gonna compose this!?! awesome..I guess i'm the only fan of s=Sawano lol |
Nope, his music is awesome, I love it too. Probably not enough to watch a puppet show though.
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