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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:10 am
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Do you think they do this again? I'm wondering if they will release Tales of the Abyss or kickstart for a Dub, I can't see them doing a sub only release for it.
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AnimeLordLuis
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:34 am
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I believe that Funimation is going to meet if not exceed there goal the Kickstarter is almost half way there and we still have 31 days left to go but I'm also curious as to whether or not Funimation will continue doing this in the future.
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mgosdin
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:35 am
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Will they? Probably, it will depend on this one being successful.
Better question; "Do they need to?" The answer to that is, "No."
Kickstarter was designed as a funding tool for projects that can't get sufficient funding thru conventional means.
It was not really intended for use as a marketing research tool. That's what Funimation ( Who, if anyone has conventional funding for Anime Dubbing, they do. ) is using it for.
Mark Gosdin
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TheMorry
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:36 am
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MarshalBanana wrote: | Do you think they do this again? I'm wondering if they will release Tales of the Abyss or kickstart for a Dub, I can't see them doing a sub only release for it. |
If there is no material left to dub then most likely Funimation won redub it. Only if the dub is maybe really horrible... And this dub is not horrible, its good but not amazing . Cant think of a show they redubbed because of a bad dub to be honest... I dont include One Piece with that:P.
I think most former Bandai titles like My Hime/Otome Witch Hunter Robin etc will just get released normal. Think this is just a rare thing because of the untouched material.
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Thespacemaster
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 6:36 am
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What i want to know...is how many bandai titles..those funimation actually own that they themselves have not released yet...also do u think they will do this again for those other titles in order to release them?
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PantsuPillow
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:06 am
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mgosdin wrote: | Will they? Probably, it will depend on this one being successful.
Better question; "Do they need to?" The answer to that is, "No."
Kickstarter was designed as a funding tool for projects that can't get sufficient funding thru conventional means.
It was not really intended for use as a marketing research tool. That's what Funimation ( Who, if anyone has conventional funding for Anime Dubbing, they do. ) is using it for.
Mark Gosdin |
I agree. Too many companies that have more than sufficient money to produce the products they wish have started using Kickstarter.
Funimation , Sekai Project and many more.
What stops a company like Activision from launching a Kickstarter for Call of Duty a franchise that already sells extremely well as an example.
Kickstarter then simply acts as a glorified and free way to advertise which I do not agree with at all.
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hikura
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:35 am
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Personally I don't think they need to redo this. It's already got a pretty good dub. Plus they don't need the kick starter money. If they re-released it they would get their money back.Even if they redid the dub they would get their money back and then some.
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DuchessBianca
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:53 am
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MarshalBanana wrote: | Do you think they do this again? I'm wondering if they will release Tales of the Abyss or kickstart for a Dub, I can't see them doing a sub only release for it. |
I would LOVE if they did something like that. As a massive dub/tale's fan I've all but pretry much given up hopr that when funimation releases it that they'd dub is since it's an old Bandai pickup. But like I mentioned in the other thread if this is going to be a new experimental thing for shows that they might not want to do I'll gladly throw a ton of money to help support said shows getting a dub as there's no price I'm not willing to pay to get an anime made inthe audio format I greatly prefer/enjoy. And if said hypothetical KS fails I can say I tried and a sub only release will just be released like it would have so no one loses out. With how companies are extremely safe and hesitant on what gets dubbed/doesn't I'm excited at the prospect of smaller niche shows getting a chance via Kickstarter. Just as long as Funimation isn't asking for a Kickstarter to din the eventual S2 of Attack on Titan or something then I'll groan haha
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AJ (LordNikon)
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:32 am
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mgosdin wrote: | Will they? Probably, it will depend on this one being successful.
Better question; "Do they need to?" The answer to that is, "No."
Kickstarter was designed as a funding tool for projects that can't get sufficient funding thru conventional means.
It was not really intended for use as a marketing research tool. That's what Funimation ( Who, if anyone has conventional funding for Anime Dubbing, they do. ) is using it for.
Mark Gosdin |
I agree 100% with you and logged in to make the exact same point. I find it extremely disingenuous seeing this trend of multi-national corporations using KS in this fashion; and to add insult to injury using it to gauge market response.
KS should have never approved such an egregious use of the platform. KS platform was intended for artists and content creators who have no access to VC, or funding through other traditional sources.
My opinion of FUNi has dropped exponentially after reading this.
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v1cious
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:44 am
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PantsuPillow wrote: |
mgosdin wrote: | Will they? Probably, it will depend on this one being successful.
Better question; "Do they need to?" The answer to that is, "No."
Kickstarter was designed as a funding tool for projects that can't get sufficient funding thru conventional means.
It was not really intended for use as a marketing research tool. That's what Funimation ( Who, if anyone has conventional funding for Anime Dubbing, they do. ) is using it for.
Mark Gosdin |
I agree. Too many companies that have more than sufficient money to produce the products they wish have started using Kickstarter.
Funimation , Sekai Project and many more.
What stops a company like Activision from launching a Kickstarter for Call of Duty a franchise that already sells extremely well as an example.
Kickstarter then simply acts as a glorified and free way to advertise which I do not agree with at all. |
Yeah this is getting ridiculous. Reminds me of what Sony did with Shenmue 3
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HeeroTX
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:21 am
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AJ (LordNikon) wrote: | KS platform was intended for artists and content creators who have no access to VC, or funding through other traditional sources. |
This campaign has prompted me to wonder: Do you think SOME companies are starting to use kickstarter, not only as a glorified pre-order system, but but also starting campaigns on the thing (specifically for the purpose) to crowd out smaller projects. ie. Do you think some of the big boys are using it to try to PREVENT kickstarter from being the disruptor it was originally meant to be?
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Lemonchest
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:43 am
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Won't be pledging, but when it comes out I'll be listening for the background character with the awkward nerd voice. They paid $5000 for the pleasure, after all.
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Maidenoftheredhand
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:52 am
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Lemonchest wrote: | Won't be pledging, but when it comes out I'll be listening for the background character with the awkward nerd voice. They paid $5000 for the pleasure, after all. |
Someone who could afford to pay $5000 for this must be making some good money. I wouldn't mind being a nerd like that. lol
But alas I'm a much poorer type of nerd!
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pluvia33
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:55 am
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PantsuPillow wrote: | Kickstarter then simply acts as a glorified and free way to advertise which I do not agree with at all. |
Just to nitpick a little, Kickstarter is NOT free:
Kickstarter FAQ - What are the fees? wrote: | If a project is successfully funded, Kickstarter applies a 5% fee to the funds collected. Our payments processor will also apply payment processing fees (roughly 3-5%). |
So Funimation is looking at paying at least $12,000 for the minimum funding goal between Kickstarter's cut and processing fees. If they reach their final stretch goal of $500K, they'll be paying at least $40,000. I'd say that's a pretty decent advertisement charge.
The only time Kickstarter is "free" is if the project is not successfully funded, but you still have to factor in any wasted man-hours put into the failed project.
Yes, it's kind of sad that the original spirit of Kickstarter may have been bastardized a bit. Having all of these big names posting projects can really drown out the ones that actually do need Kickstarter to get funding, requiring them to work a lot harder to be heard. I had a friend who just successfully funded his second indie board game Kickstarter and he had to put in crazy amounts of time both before and during the campaign to make sure that it was a success. However, it is really hard for me to fault bigger companies for using the platform. Crowdfunding likely wouldn't be as big as it is today without them and I'm sure Kickstarter isn't hating all of the cash that it's throwing their way either.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 9:56 am
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We have to remember that, regardless how we may think of whether or not this is a good idea, the Japanese can eventually decide to yank this from them.
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