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NEWS: Food Wars: Shokugeki no Sōma's 6th TV Ad Promotes April 3 Premiere


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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 4:45 am Reply with quote
One week from now. DAMN IT, CLOCK, MOVE FASTER!

No news on who picked-up the Internet Streaming rights yet? I'm gonna put it out there, CrunchyRoll announces first, FUNimation just afterwards.
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Aliis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:28 pm Reply with quote
Can't wait for it to start. One of the best manga that came out in the past few years.
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bs3311



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:49 pm Reply with quote
Hameyadea wrote:
I'm gonna put it out there, CrunchyRoll announces first, FUNimation just afterwards.


Since supposedly Warner Bros is in production, I think Viz Media will pick it up. Doubt Funi would take it since even Toriko bombed for them, and that was a fighting shonnen with food elements. This has it all over the place, you could say its a sports cooking title Anime hyper.
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Bagheera



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:21 pm Reply with quote
Torkio has little to do with Food Wars. Food wars is, basically, a harem anime.
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Aliis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:28 pm Reply with quote
Popcorn Samurai wrote:
Torkio has little to do with Food Wars. Food wars is, basically, a harem anime.

Not quite. Yes, the MC is surrounded by many female characters, but nothing else. A harem series is mostly all about the comedic and romantic vicissitudes of the protagonist. Something closer to "Nisekoi". Food Wars has been consistently more about, as the name suggests, "Food Wars", competitions between cooks, etc. Add that on top of the fact that Souma doesn't really show any interest in girls, and the main strength of a harem series is gone.
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_Cyphon_



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:57 pm Reply with quote
Popcorn Samurai wrote:
Torkio has little to do with Food Wars. Food wars is, basically, a harem anime.

Not really. I found it very surprising how much food knowledge this series packs. Though there are a lot of female characters, it is well balanced by a cast of male characters. Even the foodgasms are quite balanced in terms of gender.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:05 am Reply with quote
Aliis wrote:
Add that on top of the fact that Souma doesn't really show any interest in girls, and the main strength of a harem series is gone.


I hate that.

They (almost) always feel they need to deprive characters of their manliness on fake "morals"/"decency"/"age restriction" nonsense. It ruins believability of the character (Is he a castrate? Does he have severe medical condition that nulls his natural desires? Is he gay?), and, as result, it undermines whole story.

Pathetic cowardice and hypocrisy of the industry at worst.

Can we ever get battle/tournament anime with characters that actually human, no?

If authors (more correctly, editors/publishers) are so afraid for main character having interest in women then just make him pre-teen kid -- problem solved. No need to BS audience with half-men.

(Of course, similar things can be said about anime with teen girl characters where they somehow never get relationship with guys, of, sometimes, even aspirations. Though it is more rare.)


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Aliis



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:15 am Reply with quote
MaxSouth wrote:
Aliis wrote:
Add that on top of the fact that Souma doesn't really show any interest in girls, and the main strength of a harem series is gone.


I hate that.

They (almost) always feel they need to deprive characters of their manliness on fake "morals"/"decency"/"age restriction" nonsense. It ruins believability of the character (Is he a castrate? Does he have severe medical condition that nulls his natural desires? Is he gay?) , and, as result, it undermines whole story.

Pathetic cowardice and hypocrisy of the industry at worst.

Can we ever get battle/tournament anime with characters that actually human, no?

What are you going on about? There is no age restriction, moral anything here. Simply put, this is not a romance harem series, so the protagonist doesn't need to be a pathetic person with no sense of containment as most shounen protagonists are. That's what makes this series more enjoyable.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:35 am Reply with quote
I did not write main character has to be typical caricature of a lecherous man either. Just do normal human.

But no, impossible. You only get either sterile or sexual maniac. Alas, you can not possibly get even remotely realistic portrayal of human within this dichotomy.
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Aliis



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:59 am Reply with quote
MaxSouth wrote:
I did not write main character has to be typical lecherous caricature of a man either. Just do normal human.

But no, impossible. You only get either sterile or sexual maniac. Alas, you can not possibly get remotely realistic portrayal of human within this dichotomy.

It's more about the aim of a series then. And I think you miss the point. It's not like, in this case, the protagonist doesn't "like" girls. You simply aren't presented with a story that focuses on his "personal life", at least for now.

As I used it as an example before, look at "Nisekoi". The protagonist there definitely shows interest in girls, and he's in love too. And no, he isn't a pervert. That's a story completely driven by romance, however.

Another example: if a series features adult characters, are you expecting to see love, and sex life? No, it depends again on the purpose of the series. If it's a romance driven story, then you may. If it is not, then anything even remotely perceived as "romantic" can be considered a bonus. It's not necessary, and it's not needed.

That aside, "Food Wars" is a relatively new series, and there is plenty of content to come. Considering some of the romance hints in some of the chapters, I'm pretty sure at some point there is going to be some development on that front too. For now, Souma doesn't need to show interest in any girl at all.

Think about this. Assuming you are interested in girls, how am I supposed to see that? Or better yet, if you saw me, could you determine my interest in girls? Simple answer, no. Unless you see me flirting around with girls, you simply can't. That doesn't mean I am not interested in girls, though. Now, apply the same concept here. Not everyone has a "flirtatious" personality.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:07 am Reply with quote
MaxSouth wrote:
I did not write main character has to be typical caricature of a lecherous man either. Just do normal human.

But no, impossible. You only get either sterile or sexual maniac. Alas, you can not possibly get even remotely realistic portrayal of human within this dichotomy.

That would be all fine and dandy if this were a biography on the history channel, but keep in mind all anime are just stories and shows for entertainment. They don't need to follow basic human principles. Now, doing so would make him seem much more realistic but no show is obliged to do so. Can you specify what you mean by, "Pathetic cowardice and hypocrisy of the industry at worst." What are they cowardly about and what are they being hypocrits about? In case you misunderstood, the anime industry has no problem making a male character conscious of his sexual desires. Go take a look at almost every show with heavy fanservice and you will find a male character that in my opinion is more out of line than a normal male. The reason certain male characters are not lecherous is because the creators purposely did that to provoke a specific reaction from the audience, whether that is reverence, amazement, or pridefulness. Your stereotype of males just makes me want to roll my eyes. There are always exceptions to everything.
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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:07 am Reply with quote
@_Cyphon_

You maybe missed the key qualifier in my post: "Can we ever get battle/tournament anime with characters that actually human, no?"

Of course, there are a lot of other types of anime that portray people better.

However, it is absolute no-no for typical shonen of this genre because no main protagonist ever, god forbid, has to have desires and sexual life. Just look at One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and countless others. Or even if a side-kick character has desires, it is never a relationship, nor even just sex, it is only lecherous behaviour like in case of yellow-haired smoker cook in One Piece. So it all fake through and through.

It is very annoying and that editors/publishers limit the formula what those characters in battle/tournament/fight manga can be and how they can be portrayed because of the fake moral stance that you should not tell teens about oh-so-horrible and immoral things like sex.
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Aliis



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:27 am Reply with quote
MaxSouth wrote:
@_Cyphon_

You maybe missed the key qualifier in my post: "Can we ever get battle/tournament anime with characters that actually human, no?"

Of course, there are a lot of other types of anime that portray people better.

However, it is absolute no-no for typical shonen of this genre because no main protagonist ever, god forbid, has to have desires and sexual life. Just look at One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and countless others. Or even if a side-kick character has desires, it is never a relationship, nor even just sex, it is only lecherous behaviour like in case of yellow-haired smoker cook in One Piece. So it all fake through and through.

It is very annoying and that editors/publishers limit the formula what those characters in battle/tournament/fight manga can be and how they can be portrayed because of the fake moral stance that you should not tell teens about oh-so-horrible and immoral things like sex.

You simply miss the point and just point out a few long running series. Let me get this cleared. One Piece will never portray anything related to love. It's not because of some moral dilemma. The author simply isn't bothered with that. Naruto is a different story, and there is romance. Just because they don't show two characters having a sexual intercourse, it doesn't take anything away. It's not a limitation of any sort.

Look at "Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple", it's a battle shounen series full of that degenerate stuff that you seem to want every single battle shounen manga to be infested with. Where has the alleged "limitation" gone to in that case? And yes, it was running on a famous shounen magazine, not some obscure adult one.

The answer is pretty simple. You are reading a story from the author's perspective. Not an account of a character's daily life. You are presented with what is relevant to the story the author has in mind. Simply put, you won't get two characters banging each other if it isn't relevant to the story. It would be out of place and completely BS level.

Last, you need to explain what has "romance" anything to do with being human? There are plenty of people who are single in the world. Are they not human either?


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AnimeAddict2014



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:12 pm Reply with quote
This series reminded me of Yakitate Japan! . .in a way..

but the reaction of this series look a bit creepy (naked people?)

i hope it's a good series..

This is on my "want to see" list.. but i guess we will see after episode 1 or 2..
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Aliis



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:13 pm Reply with quote
AnimeAddict2014 wrote:
This series reminded me of Yakitate Japan! . .in a way..

but the reaction of this series look a bit creepy (naked people?)

i hope it's a good series..

This is on my "want to see" list.. but i guess we will see after episode 1 or 2..

Don't worry, not really a big issue, and as the story progresses the amount of fanservice decreases by a lot. The plot and the characters are really great. A pretty enjoyable series.

Here's a review: animenewsnetwork.com/review/food-wars/shokugeki-no-soma/gn-5/.86472
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