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ehh123
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:58 pm
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What are your favorite movies based on an anime franchise?
There are a few rules:
1. No retellings of anime/manga plots.
2. No compilation movies.
3. No films that served as obvious finales to TV anime that ended on incomplete notes.
4. No TV movies.
5. The stories have to be self contained but they can take place before, during or after the events of the manga/anime. They can even have questionable placements in the continuity like the DBZ movies or no continuity like the Lupin III movies.
Basically, I don't want to see people say Akira, End of Evangelion or the Berserk trilogy. That would be too easy. Instead, this concentrates on the films that studios can churn out at an almost annual basis until the anime is off the air. The ones that can be as short as 30 minutes long (but not always). The ones that are specifically aimed at fans of the franchise.
However, that doesn't mean all of them are blatant cash grabs. Take Castle of Cagliostro and Our War Game. The former is a film that is made for everyone (Miyazaki admitted it in an interview) despite it starring characters from a franchise that has an established fanbase. The latter is a film that, while you still have to be familiar with the plot and characters of Digimon Adventure in order to fully enjoy it, has great quality nonetheless.
Even then, everyone has their personal favorites. For example, mine is the the Lupin III film Farewell to Nostradamus. Yeah, the plot is something you can find in one of the TV movies but it is still a lot of fun and I LOVE the animation.
Now it is your turn.
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zawa113
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:16 am
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I think those rules are waaayyy too limiting to the point of being unfair. I immediately think of movies that aren't tied to anything (like Redline), but if I were to just go with "tied to an existing anime franchise", then I can come up with answers a lot easier. And Akira is based on a manga, but it lacks a full on TV series. And if a movie retelling does it as good (or better) than the original, I don't see the problem with pointing that out and celebrating it. Cash grab? Sure, but that doesn't mean it was always done hastily and lazily.
Trigun: Badlands Rumble most closely fits what your rules state, it's pretty self contained and is basically an extra long episode (but one of the earlier ones, not one of the later, more serious ones). While the original Trigun was never bad looking, that decade+ gap and the leaps in animation made that movie a damn nice looking spectacle too. It was like a love letter that came out years later to the fans.
I enjoyed the Galaxy Express 999 movie as well. It is a "retelling" of the anime, but the anime was mostly episodic while this mostly just had the important things in it. And seeing how we only more recently got the anime (in an incredibly botched release might I add), and it's 100+ episodes long and old, I think the movie was going to do better over here in the first place. I wasn't as big on the sequel though. I didn't like the sequel as much (except for the pretty)
I liked the first Patlabor movie quite a bit too. I remember watching it before watching the series, and while it makes sense that way, I think having the character background on their personalities really does help a lot. A lot of people like the 2nd movie more but it honestly damn near puts me to sleep, I don't quite get it.... still, the first movie is a fun Patlabor adventure, also feeling a good bit like an extra long episode.
Another retelling, the second Gurren Lagann movie is pretty damn awesome. I liked the first one (especially the new stuff at the end), but it somehow made the four big baddies fight less climactic by combining them and it flashed through like 4 episodes in ten seconds (one of them was ep 4 so touché, but still). The second movie had no such problem. The TV series itself was already epic and this series is known for doing things over the top and the movie only went more over the top. Since the second half of the series had more fights anyway, I think this worked better in its favor (oh and the added hacking scene is classic)
The Gekiganger III OVA is rather brilliant. It's an OVA, sure, but the premise is that the cast of Martian Successor Nadesico, huge fans of the fictional series Gekiganger III, are going to see a movie of said fictional 70s mecha anime. The "movie" is half "recap" and half "new material", but it's really all new to the audience (clips may have appeared in MSN eps, but never in full, somewhat chopped up, but enough for the viewer to get the idea). Seeing how the Prince of Darkness movie should be ignored (it doesn't help that some of its story was trapped in Saturn and Dreamcast games that never left Japan), let's just call this its "movie"
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Redbeard 101
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 7:47 pm
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For starters your imposed qualifications greatly limit what people could answer with as their favorite. This thread also feels a bit like another recommendation thread. Which are not allowed except for the official ones we have already.
Secondly we do have a Top 10/Worst 5 thread that is stickied at the top of this section where people can list their favorite movies already. Between that thread and our official recommendation threads I wonder if this thread may be a bit redundant. Plus with your tight qualifications on what users can or cannot choose from I don't know how well this is going to work either. I am leaving this thread open for now though to see how it goes. But I will be monitoring it.
Lastly, it's only proper that if you are going to ask others for their favorite franchise movies, based on your guidelines, that you list your own with reasons as well. We sort of expect that here at ANN when creating a thread asking others what they think about a topic, or to post some of their favorites on whatever the topic may be. Thank you.
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Alan45
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:44 pm
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@Psycho 101
I agree the requirements are rather restrictive. Most people will be digging to find movies which satisfy the requirements rather than "favorites". Of course if you only can think of a few titles which qualify they are your "favorites" under the restrictions.
I don't see this as a recommendation thread since the only common element is that they are movies and qualify. They are likely to be from a variety of genres and tastes.
The first I thought of was the Garden of Sinners cycle of movies. That is what, seven movies right there. The combine mystery, suspense, the supernatural and significant action with slower parts. They are also beautiful. If Type Moon can't be considered a franchise, they are specifically related to Lunar Legend Tsukihime having related characters.
Changing direction rather quickly, I found both of the Ranma 1/2 movies excellent. Both are standalone both with regard to the manga and the TV series. Both are excellent examples of what made the franchise so popular in the first place. I expect that the Urusei Yatsura movies also qualify but I haven't gotten to them and can't comment on their quality.
The first Tenchi Muyo movie is an excellent extension of the franchise providing a new big bad, a look into the past and significant action.
The first Kimagure Orange Road movie acts as a sequel to the TV series providing a glimpse of the future. The TV series was complete though, ending at the same place as the manga.
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Dessa
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:47 pm
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Alan45 wrote: | The first I thought of was the Garden of Sinners cycle of movies. That is what, seven movies right there. The combine mystery, suspense, the supernatural and significant action with slower parts. They are also beautiful. If Type Moon can't be considered a franchise, they are specifically related to Lunar Legend Tsukihime having related characters. |
Actually, they're directly related to Fate/stay night, as I understand it, as well, as one of the characters from KnK is referred to directly in the True Ending of Heaven's Feel.
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Alan45
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:13 pm
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@Dessa
You're back! I thought I had read of a relationship to Fate Stay Night but I wasn't sure. I do know that the witch that provided the glasses in Tsukihime is related to the one in GoS.
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Dessa
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:30 am
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IIRC, the KnK character provides a new arm for Shiroe in the True Ending of Heaven's Feel, because he loses his
And I've been around. Mainly in the Log Horizon threads and arguing over Higurashi in the encyclopedia forum (BTW, I still say I'm right).
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Alan45
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:33 am
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@Dessa
I don't follow the threads for either of those programs so I didn't see you. What I was referring to was that yesterday you had a star and "Baka Ranger" under your name, gone now.
Concerning FSN, providing an arm makes sense, she does the same for Shiki in GoS.
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anijunk
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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:56 am
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So movies from Bleach, One Piece and Fulmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood do not count?
Do not know any of the franchises, but think most movies were stand alone stories.
Perhaps this one: Cowboy Bebop.
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vanfanel
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:06 pm
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I like the one where the hero meets a villain who's even stronger than the series' main villain, who's looking for pieces of an item he wants to assemble, and the hero's friends have to fight the bad guy's flunkies to protect the pieces, but they all lose, and then even the hero gets beaten up by the bad guy, but later they regroup and fight again, and this time they win even though the villain assembled his device and became invincible.
I'd tell you what series I'm talking about, but I'm sure this detailed description has given it away already.
Serious answer: it's a tossup between Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer, and Castle of Cagliostro, which I wouldn't have even thought of if the OP hadn't mentioned it.
Cagliostro needs no introduction, but UY2 might: it was everywhere back in the VHS days, but I'm not sure how widely available it is now. It may be the perfect Mamoru Oshii movie, though. His comedic side and his arty-weird side are delicately balanced here. It's funny, at times creepy, and ultimately touching. As with Cagliostro, it was my introduction to its franchise, so I didn't know any of the characters going in, but found my footing easily enough and enjoyed it from there.
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Cptn_Taylor
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:17 pm
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The rules are too restrictive in my opinion but lets play along.
I'd say Harlock the Arcadia of my Youth. This film though is not so much an ending as an origin story, a prequel to Harlock's second tv season. Fantastic art production, and very very moody. Especially if you appreciate Leiji Matsumoto's melodramatic storytelling.
Another film that is squarely into the seventies disco-science fiction era is Space Pirate Cobra. Another favorite of mine. This film is also a prequel sort of to the tv series.
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