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Akane the Catgirl



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 1:56 pm Reply with quote
NOTE: Reposting this from earlier because it got deleted for being in the wrong thread.

I just want to vent about something really personal and upsetting, so I hope I won't be a bother.

There's this guy who I shall not name because it's more trouble than its worth. He's a fellow ANN forum goer, and we...um...don't necessarily agree about whether certain anime are good or not. (And to said user if he happens to see this, STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD I WAS NOT TALKING TO YOU STOP IT.) We've mostly had neutral to negative interactions in the past, but I try to tolerate him.

Well, two days ago, I made a post in a thread that shall not be named. (If you want to, look for it yourself.) The forum user already made a post that I hadn't noticed, and I made a response in the thread. I stated my opinion, and then proceeded to use an example. All good, right?

Well...uh...the forum user did respond to my post. More specifically, he MOCKED my example using phrases I myself used. He had no reason to be so dismissive and condescending towards my response, and I have this feeling- whether it be paranoid or not- that he wrote that post with the purpose of attacking me and making fun of my preferences in anime. Ninety five percent of that post was dedicated specifically to trashing that example. He could have simply stated that he disagreed, but based on our past encounters and the language he used, I don't think that's the case.

So, I ask all of you; what do you do when other people try to put you down? Did you think that guy was trying to make me upset? At this point, I have no idea if the forum user knew if he was hurting my feelings at all. I tried talking about it with one of the mods, but it didn't help much. If it did, I wouldn't have come here to ask for your advice. Sorry if I wasted your time.

(P.S. No, I am not linking to anything at all. I really don't want to cause any more trouble than I already might have done.)
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:02 pm Reply with quote
Hm, judging from your post. I think you may want to bring this up to either the mod (Tony K, or Key) or the admin like Zac about this via PM (make sure you have the person name and the link to the post where did he did these action to you). What the person did to you is a violation of this rule and I expected the mod to be enforcing this rule seriously. I hope the moderators or admins read this. You said this happen on the forum, why didn't you click on "report post" if he was doing that to you??
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Akane the Catgirl



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:19 pm Reply with quote
mdo7 wrote:
Hm, judging from your post. I think you may want to bring this up to either the mod (Tony K, or Key) or the admin like Zac about this via PM (make sure you have the person name and the link to the post where did he did these action to you). What the person did to you is a violation of this rule and I expected the mod to be enforcing this rule seriously. I hope the moderators or admins read this. You said this happen on the forum, why didn't you click on "report post" if he was doing that to you??


I actually did bring this up to a mod before I made my original response. In fact, I just alerted another mod because the first one didn't really help at all. I made sure to tell the second mod the forum user's name and which thread we posted in. I didn't actually link it because I didn't think about it until you brought it up.

Admittedly I didn't report it because I thought nobody would believe me. The forum user worded it in a way that raised a few questions in my mind, but I didn't want to cry out a false alarm and get in more trouble than its worth. Like I just said, I talked to a mod two days ago, and I already sent a response to the second mod. Thanks, anyway!
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:24 pm Reply with quote
Akane the Catgirl wrote:


I actually did bring this up to a mod before I made my original response. In fact, I just alerted another mod because the first one didn't really help at all. I made sure to tell the second mod the forum user's name and which thread we posted in. I didn't actually link it because I didn't think about it until you brought it up.

Admittedly I didn't report it because I thought nobody would believe me. The forum user worded it in a way that raised a few questions in my mind, but I didn't want to cry out a false alarm and get in more trouble than its worth. Like I just said, I talked to a mod two days ago, and I already sent a response to the second mod. Thanks, anyway!


You should have link the post to where it happen so not only mod but other users can determine if the incident was bad like you claim. Also I can see if this user had a past history of attacking another user (because I keep track of ANN users that misbehave and attack on other people). When I had problem with users bullying me on ANN, that's what I did (I linked and quoted the incident it happened).
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Akane the Catgirl



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:38 pm Reply with quote
Aaaaaaaaaaand it's gone~! For one thing, I'm really glad that I never have to see that derisive piece of text ever again. On the other hand, I forgot to quote it, so said piece of text is lost forever. Thanks TonyK! You really helped me out there! I feel much better now! Very Happy

(to mdo7: Regarding the link you posted, I had to deal with that same troll last year, so I know what you mean.)
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mdo7



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 5:07 pm Reply with quote
Akane the Catgirl wrote:
Aaaaaaaaaaand it's gone~! For one thing, I'm really glad that I never have to see that derisive piece of text ever again. On the other hand, I forgot to quote it, so said piece of text is lost forever. Thanks TonyK! You really helped me out there! I feel much better now! Very Happy


Well glad to see everything has been dealt with. I knew Tony K would be the one to help you with that. Tony helped me with several issue dealing with bully and in return I helped report post and look for recurring troll under a new user name like this one for example. If you have anymore problem like this in the future, contact Tony or Zac, they take these allegation seriously.

I'm happy to see you're all right now. Smile

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(to mdo7: Regarding the link you posted, I had to deal with that same troll last year, so I know what you mean.)


Ah, I see Shiratori1/Himeko90 terrorize you too, don't worry you're not alone.

And one more thing:

you wrote:
Admittedly I didn't report it because I thought nobody would believe me. The forum user worded it in a way that raised a few questions in my mind, but I didn't want to cry out a false alarm and get in more trouble than its worth.


Actually half of the post I reported for Tony (or Zac) turns out to be false alarm, and I didn't get scold or moderated for reporting false alarm. There was a lot of posts and messages I thought were either troll post or insult or possible political soapboxing when it turns out it wasn't the case or didn't violate the rule at all. Tony sent me a PM praising me for diligent and being very observant despite the post being not violating the rule and false alarm. So you see, you shouldn't be worried if you reported a certain post would turn out to be false alarm, you'll not be moderated or something like that, so don't be scared to report that post even if it turns out to be a false alarm or didn't violate the rule, that's up to the moderator if that post should be deleted or not.

Akane, I'll give you one more advice:

If you're worried that post would be changed or modified that the troll would do like you said, take a snapshot of that post before the troll change it (that's why the print screen button on the keyboard is there for, it's to capture screenshot), use a Microsoft paint or any photo studio software, paste the screenshot, save it as a file, and use a image sharing website like tinypic, imgur, etc... to convert the file into pictures you can put on the private message and the forum so the next time you want to do something about the troll and not worried about the troll deliberately change evidence on his post. That way, you have the original post (in form of a snapshot picture).

I hope I can be much of a help to you. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 10:51 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, I already replied via PM with a sort of solution. While I'd like to think "talking it out" can be more beneficial to both sides, sometimes one of those parties just can't be talked to; "some men just want to watch the world burn" to quote The Dark Knight. And the same can be set for Internet users who troll, bully, mock, and talk down to people.

I've found that the most effective solution is to just outright admonish people by deleting/editing posts, placing them on Moderation, or even banning them, if it comes down to that. The thing about the Internet is that it provides a great deal of anonymity, which then gives people (specifically, the ones full of negative energy) all kinds of opportunities to spout their cynical vitriol as they see fit *because* of said anonymity and the high probability that none of us will ever meet each other in real life.

But yeah, my basic solution was to just report the posts. And if said posts are deemed as violating the #1 rule of politeness in these forums (including any and all forms of personal insults, name-calling, mockery, bullying, etc.), and if I see enough of these reports on a normal basis, those problem users will be dealt swift justice. You guys have to help me help you by staying vigilant and reporting these incidents when they occur, though.

Anyway, seeing as how the problem appears resolved, I'll stop this from dragging into anything else.
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