Forum - View topicBig O,The Matrix,and Lost.
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coldspider
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So one of my friends let me borrow the Lost season 1 boxset recently and I've been watching the series over the last couple of days. (yeah,it's pretty good BTW) Anyone familiar with the series knows that the survivors discover a strange french transmission emanating from the island and that Sayid comes across a french woman later on in the series.
Now,it wasn't until Sayid's encounter that I realized that Big O,The Matrix,and Lost all have some sort of french element in each story. In The Matrix,the Merovingian program portrayed itself as an arrogant French man.Granted,it's nothing major but the french element is still present. And in Big O,the plot in the 10th episode,"Winter Night Phantom",revolves around Dan Dastun's supposed memory of an old black and white French movie he saw a long time ago and has constant flashbacks of one particular scene.Ultimately,he actually lives out that scene in real life at the end of the episode. Also,later on in the series there's a group of outsiders known as 'The Union' and one of it's high ranking members,Vera Ronstadt,speaks with a french accent. So what's the deal? Normally I'd figure it's just an odd coincidence,but considering that the themes and concepts behind each series are so similar,I'm left wondering if there is some sort of connection. |
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KyuuA4
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Story writing is independent of the medium. Books, TV, Animation, Video Games, etc. Y'can take one story and put it into any of them. |
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coldspider
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So the creators of Lost ripped off Big O. =/ |
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KyuuA4
Posts: 1361 Location: America, where anime and manga can be made |
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I would more or less say -- Big O ripped off Batman. Rich guy. Fighting crime. Living the Bachelor life. Though, unlike Batman, he didn't use a mask, utlity belt, and cape. Instead, he used a Giant robot and had a "persocom" as a partner; and |
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Iritscen
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????...!!!!!... And how much of Big O did you watch exactly? Anyway, the reason all these stories use French people in mysterious ways is simple: WE DON'T UNDERSTAND THE FRENCH. Art imitates life. |
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one3rd
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Enough to know that it is absolutely a rip-off of Batman, except with a city full of amnesiacs and some giant robots. |
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KyuuA4
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I'd say 80% of it -- I probably missed a couple episodes here and there. :p
Indeed. Nobody understands the French, especially when they're yelling at you red in the face. It seems the Linguistic Audibility of the French is inversely proportional to Sound Volume.  
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Iritscen
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I once asked a Frenchman what something meant in French, AND HE DIDN'T KNOW.
So apparently even the French can't understand themselves. |
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bahamut623
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That's really unfair. Stylistically they're alike, but that's probably because THE SAME PEOPLE animated both. Besides, it's a good look. Batman TAS is great, but it and Big O are about completely different things, especially if you watch and understand the ending of Big O. As for the topic, French accents just make you seem distinguished and crazy, so it's fun. |
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
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What about Iron Man? Rich as sin, fights crime, etc. His suit? You know, that robotic suit? He made that. Wanna tell me that's a ripoff of Batman too? Also, I don't recall Bruce Wayne's partner being an unemotional, incredibly attractive android girl. |
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KyuuA4
Posts: 1361 Location: America, where anime and manga can be made |
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Wow, that is news to me. Can you verify this? Seeing this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series And this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_O I see two different studios. As for the personel, well, I doubt I have access to that.
Of course, of course. The differences between the two are blatantly obvious. Hmm.. I missed the ending. Might as well tell me now 'cause I don't really have much of a chance to watch it. |
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bahamut623
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From the Big O Wiki page(I've read about this elsewhere too)
From the Batman TAS Wiki
As for the ending...it's complicated. You should really watch it yourself. It's the one of VERY few anime I consider a masterpiece. Basically spoiler[Angel is (unknowingly) in control of the world. She erased everyone's memories as the Big Venus and does so again at the end. It relates alot to philosopher Rene Descartes also.] Still watch it, especially for the final fight scenes(they're brilliant!). It comes on every once in a while on Adult Swim, look out for it. |
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KyuuA4
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Ah, that fully explains the Batman influence.
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