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Luminal
 Posts: 179 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada |
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Hi there,
I have just finished watching this anime and I found it was pretty cool, even thought I didn't like the art much. It was understood from the moment they mention his name that Alucard was somehow related to Dracula, and in the end they let you know spoiler[that he is in fact Dracula]. However, if that is true then I don't understand how on earth did the Hellsing organization manage to make Alucard its servant. Somebody care to explain? Thanks, Luminal |
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SoljaFeJah
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Well i think his name is actually Arucard not Alucard http://hellsing.pioneeranimation.com/operatives.html
as u see on the official site it says his name is arucard. And the anime never really told anything about Arucard unless i missed something and i think it might explain things better in unlimited which im wait for it to come in the mail. And i think he mentiond a spoiler[contract] so that must be the reason dunno. |
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Koda89
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His name is Alucard in English and Arucard in Japanese, just like Dracula is Dracula in English and Dracura in Japanese. spoiler[The "contract" was Helsing(Integra's father) caught Alucard and made him the test subject of a few of Helsing's experiments. In the end, they ended up brainwashing Alucard, and Alucard, not knowing who he really is at the time, swears loyalty to Helsing and his decendents. The proof that he is Dracula is shown everywhere. His name is Dracula spelled backwards, and when he impales Incognito, half of his face flashes back to his old self, an ancient European face that is almost spot on with that of Vlad Tepes, aka Vlad Draculea, also aka, the REAL Dracula. Vlad's nickname was Vlad the Impaler, because he would impale his enemies and eat his meals while watching them slowly die on a pike. Also, to add on to the fact that he is really Vlad the Impaler, Alucard impales Incognito.] |
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Daemonblue
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Well, since he already mentioned the Alucard/Dracula thing (c'mon guys, don't tell me you didn't see it) I'll just do a quick explainanation of the variation of the names. The reason it can be Arucard or Alucard is that the sounds ra re ru ri and ro have a position in the mouth closely related to la le lu li and lo ( very similar to latin). It's the same thing with Ramune (the transliteration) and Lamune (closer to how it sounds, since it's actually the japanese for Lemonade). Now the Hepburn romanization style (mostly used by fansubbers and Americans) isn't the style that's widely accepted in Japan, hence Martian Successor Nadeshiko (Hepburn) becomes Martian Successor Nadesico. This can also attribute to part of the differences. Now add the fact that it's a foreign name, and uses katakana instead of hiragana and kanji, and you can see why there can be many variations in the names between the Japanese romanizations and the American ones, it even shows in fansubs. This is why there's the saying that Japanese is only written in Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji, and never in roman, rather the romanizations are just to help pronounce the symbols.
Well, I think that's enough of that lesson, can someone post the name of the system of romanization that is widely accepted in Japan? |
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Azathrael
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There really is only one name in this case as the very obvious implication is that spoiler[Alucard is Dracula spelled backwards. Hence explaining who he is before you even get to the final episode, where it's only confirmed once more]. There's nothing to delve about how it's variously spelled due to romanization of the Japanese language. If you want pure romanization, it'd be "arukarudo" and "dorakiyura" (kiyu = kyu).
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Webki
 Posts: 299 Location: Albany, NY |
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They use a Hepburn variant. It doesn't have an official name. But, I'm pretty sure it doesn't vary that much from "textbook" romanization. But then again, romanization of Japanese is the worst way to learn Japanese. Learn kana (only 46 characters in each form) and use that. Much better. However, I must say, the Japanese love romanizing things. Don't ask me why, but it's popular. |
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undeadben
 Posts: 1212 Location: West Texas |
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Here is a link to an earlier Hellsing thread, there are some good posts here too about Alucard and his ties to the legendary count Dracula.
Hellsing Questions |
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Hisdon
 Posts: 411 Location: Poquoson, VA |
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I don't know if you are counting manga or not, because everything after episode 7 or so of the tv series was filler, but there's even more later into the series that you'll see in the OVA...
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tsukinoken
 Posts: 91 Location: canada foo |
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In the manga in spoiler[Volume 8 its revealed that Alucard is in fact Dracula It happens during the Nazi England masacare where he releases Control-level 0 restriction.]
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Luminal
Posts: 179 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada |
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Thank you for your answers guys, my question was actually "how on earth did the Hellsing organization manage to make Alucard its servant?" If alucard is so damn powerful as they show in the TV series, how did Integral's father, a puny little human manage to capture Dracula and make him his servant?
Luminal |
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Nerv
 Posts: 22 Location: gvine, Tejas |
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I always figured Alucard was Dracula because looking at Alucard backwards spells Dracula. But I suppose it could be coincidence that its the way it is. But cmon! Alucard kicks butt like Dracula.
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Daemonblue
Posts: 701 |
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Go look at the spoiler tag for Koda89's post 
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Arkard
 Posts: 677 Location: Poland |
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About Romanization.
As I remember there are 3 recognized styles of transcription into the latin alphabet. The most popular one outside of Japan is the Hepburn. But the Japanese have devised their own 2 styles, which ironically are very rarely used. The Goverment Romanization and The Japanese Romanization style. Each containing little differences than the other. For example, a popular way of transcribing し is by SHI. That is Hepburn. But the Japanese Romanization, transcribes it as SI. This is just one of the examples. Though 3 styles are officialy recognized the Japanese tend to transcribe however they like. All throughput Japan you may find romaji that doesnt fit into any existing style. On bottles, trucks, everywhere. Where does it come from? Who knows? About Hellsing. Still no one seems to know HOW did they capture Alucard. Was this ever explained? I dont think so. I think we just have to take their word for it that a) it was difficult as hell b) a lot of people died c) they pulled in all their resources on it. It was a good investment for them. |
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Hisdon
Posts: 411 Location: Poquoson, VA |
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the scene where Hellsing convinced Alucard to join his organization is in the manga, and as far as the story of how they beat him into submission goes, I think it'd be wise to refer to the novel "dracula" I can't be sure myself though on the novel part, havn't read it yet myself. |
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Arkard
Posts: 677 Location: Poland |
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Really? I thought they captured him. What volume is that? |
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