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Catseyetiger
Joined: 20 Oct 2009
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 4:18 pm
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I do not get the whole attack of the titans thing,
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CrownKlown
Joined: 05 May 2011
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:01 pm
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Im curious has manga ever made it or is it even eligible for paperback list? I kind of want to see how these volumes rank compared to main list.
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GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou
Joined: 16 Oct 2013
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:11 am
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attack on titan seems to be shueishas ultimate sales weapon. Its not like bleach which fails in japan but has huge success in western countries or mone piece which has huge success in japan but mediocre in western countries.
nope.
titan sales amazingly well in every country it appears. why ? I guess because big skinnless monsters hunting mankind is a cool idea.
and if we're honest, the writing is not bad. its full of deus ex mashina shit but it has nice plot twists and it is mostly consistent to what was said in earlier statements.
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EighteenSky
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:27 am
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GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou wrote: | attack on titan seems to be shueishas ultimate sales weapon. Its not like bleach which fails in japan but has huge success in western countries or mone piece which has huge success in japan but mediocre in western countries. |
1. AoT is not a Shueisha property, it is a Kodansha property
2. Bleach is nowhere near a failure in Japan unless you consider 500,000 sales per volume a failure
3. Show me some stats to prove One Piece has mediocre sales in the west
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Kutsu
Joined: 23 Apr 2011
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 11:15 am
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In the western world, One Piece sales are only 'mediocre' (relatively speaking, I'd say average is a more fitting word in fact) in the US. They're fine in most european countries (around 90k/volume in France only behind Naruto, Bleach being behind both, among the bestsellers in Germany or Italy etc). I don't have stats for the UK or Australia but sales are apparently very low in these countries (they're quite low in the entire anglosphere tbh, they are not as terrible in absolute terms in the US only because of the huge population).
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MentalMachine
Joined: 09 Oct 2013
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:17 pm
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Kutsu wrote: | In the western world, One Piece sales are only 'mediocre' (relatively speaking, I'd say average is a more fitting word in fact) in the US. They're fine in most european countries (around 90k/volume in France only behind Naruto, Bleach being behind both, among the bestsellers in Germany or Italy etc). I don't have stats for the UK or Australia but sales are apparently very low in these countries (they're quite low in the entire anglosphere tbh, they are not as terrible in absolute terms in the US only because of the huge population). |
English speaking countries don't care much for comics. Comics in the US are a $500 million business, which is not much compared to Japan's $4 billion or even back in the 90s. I don't remember comics in this current age doing 1.7 million per issue. In Finland, Donald Duck comics can do 1 million+ per issue in a country with less than 6 million people.
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GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou
Joined: 16 Oct 2013
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:27 pm
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EighteenSky wrote: |
GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou wrote: | attack on titan seems to be shueishas ultimate sales weapon. Its not like bleach which fails in japan but has huge success in western countries or mone piece which has huge success in japan but mediocre in western countries. |
1. AoT is not a Shueisha property, it is a Kodansha property
2. Bleach is nowhere near a failure in Japan unless you consider 500,000 sales per volume a failure
3. Show me some stats to prove One Piece has mediocre sales in the west |
pardon me on that. kodansha ofcourse. But the other stuff I said is actually true. sure bleach sales can be considered top seller in japan but compared to naruto which is really bad right now and still sells over a million, it doesnt compare. not to mention one piece..oh hell no.
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meeedoooz
Joined: 03 Aug 2013
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Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:48 pm
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GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou wrote: |
EighteenSky wrote: |
GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou wrote: | attack on titan seems to be shueishas ultimate sales weapon. Its not like bleach which fails in japan but has huge success in western countries or mone piece which has huge success in japan but mediocre in western countries. |
1. AoT is not a Shueisha property, it is a Kodansha property
2. Bleach is nowhere near a failure in Japan unless you consider 500,000 sales per volume a failure
3. Show me some stats to prove One Piece has mediocre sales in the west |
pardon me on that. kodansha ofcourse. But the other stuff I said is actually true. sure bleach sales can be considered top seller in japan but compared to naruto which is really bad right now and still sells over a million, it doesnt compare. not to mention one piece..oh hell no. |
why do you keep baiting ?! bleach's sales have decreased but it is still a grand franchise , Naruto is maintaining it's norm with 1M copies sold per volume ( sometimes less sometimes more ) so how the hell is it bad ?!! i get it.. to you every series must sell as one piece or else it's bad ?! my god.
anyhow the US market is small, that doesn't mean what AOT achieves is any less impressive . good day to you sir
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GintokiThrowsDirtAtYou
Joined: 16 Oct 2013
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 5:24 am
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why are you so stubborn ? I'm not comparing its sales to one piece, neither do i hate bleach. i highly enjoy its current arc in fact even more than all the ones before. I'm comparing bleachs sales to its past sales that reached a million or came very close, which is not the case anymore. The reason is most likely the fullbring arc.
Naruto's writing is really bad in the current arc, it draws itself more and more into paradoxes and leaves plotholes at points where its easy to not to.
So what ? Is it now illegal to discuss sales and say your theories ? give me a fishing break
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