Forum - View topicMakoto Shinkai is he the next Hayao Miyazaki
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waterboy
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Makoto Shinkai has been claim to be the next Hayao Miyazaki.i Have seen place promised in are early days i enjoyed it allot, but i don't think it is as good as Miyazakis works, but he is young so there will be more to come from him.
do you think he is the next Miyazaki? 
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abunai
Old Regular
 Posts: 5463 Location: 露命 |
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Interesting question. (Although I could have wished for better spelling and grammar - you'll do better next time, right?)
Shinkai Makoto is certainly brilliant - that can't be disputed. His works all glitter with the originality that marks a great master of the medium. However, is he "the next Miyazaki"? It depends on what you mean by that. Miyazaki's great forte is that he is universal in his appeal. He literally speaks to everybody. His films have the same sort of all-inclusive story appeal that characterises early Disney films. It's not without reason that Miyazaki and Disney have been compared - although I personally think the comparison is perhaps a bit too pat. But Shinkai is different. His works are not universally appealing. Though they certainly do a smashing job of turning the hardcore anime fans into a bunch of drooling worshippers (myself among them), they are not for everybody. A Disney or Miyazaki film can be shown to nearly any audience with some assurance of success. Shinkai's films cannot. Therefore, the answer must be: no, Shinkai Makoto is not the "next Miyazaki". His appeal is too narrow, although his genius is unmistakeable. - abunai |
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ryokoalways
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I personally believe Shinkai's film has one weakness. While Miyazaki's films has withstood the times (Nausicaa will be 20 years old in a year), I dont believe Shinkai's films will do the same. I have watched all of Miyazaki's films when I was a child because I lived in Taiwan. After 10-11 years, I still watch those films, even though I have seem them dozens of times already (which, according to Miyazaki, is a no-no ; ; ), but they never get old. While I cannot really say for Shinkai's films, as they have not been around that long, I currently dont feel like I would watch Voices 20 years down the road.
Make no mistake though, he is damn good, and I love Voices. |
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Randall Miyashiro
 Posts: 2451 Location: A block away from Golden Gate Park |
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Like Miyazaki Shinkai has a very strong style which carries from one project to the next. Shinkai has nowhere near the popularity as Miyazaki who is in a class of his own (with the possible exception of Tezuka). I would think it more fair to say Shinkai is a contemporary of someone like Satoshi Kon. These are of course all subjective opinions, but I don't think many here will say Shinkai has or will impact the industry on the same level as Miyazaki.
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Haru to Ashura
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I agree, while Shinkai's work is impressive, it does not reach the 'timeless classic' catagory. That's what seperates classic animation from good movies that we watch once and then forget about. No offence, but it's my opinion that Matoko Shinkai will not become 'the next Miyazaki.' His work isn't original enough. His stories are good, but the plot elements are nothing unusual from the anime nitch normalities. The same can be said about is art style - Miyazaki has his own, unique style that's instantly recongizeable, whereas Shinkai's designs are very, very generic. I also agree that his works are not universally appealing. Personaly, his stories don't even interest me that much. Comparing him to Satoshi Kon or Yoshitoshi aBE is more realistic. But on the other side, both Satoshi Kon and Yoshitoshi aBE have a bit of unique flare to their art styles that Shinkai still doesn't have. |
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CorneredAngel
 Posts: 854 Location: New York, NY |
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Actually, the way I see it, there is a very strong similarity between Shinkai and early (1980's) Hideaki Anno. The same work outside the mainstream, first a self-produced short that catches the attention of the big companies, and then, once there is money and resources to play around with, an imperfect but definitely major work that probably tries to grab for more than it can ever actually hold. It's especially interesting since outwardly, both <i>Beyond the Clouds</i> and <i>Wings of Honneamise</i> are based around imagery of flight, but at their heart, are stories about the nature of relationships and love.
...so really, the truly interesting thing to see will be where Shinkai goes next, and whether he can mature into directing TV series, or if the feature film is his limit. |
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rond556
 Posts: 26 Location: Newark, DE |
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His movies are too depressing and lonely to reach the happy quality of Miyazaki movies. He is a great director and his artwork is AMAZING (probably my current favorite) but his The Place Promised in our Early Days certainly wasn't as good as Howl's Moving Castle.
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CorneredAngel
Posts: 854 Location: New York, NY |
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...of course it won't be - Miyazaki's been directing for thirty years, while Shinkai is just starting. The question should be - is <i>Beyond the Clouds</i> comparable to what Miyazaki's first films. |
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ryokoalways
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But the two films are of two completely different Genre.
Beyond or Voices compare to Lupin. Kind of weird. |
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Nani?
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I think Makoto Shinkai is closer to the early work of Gainax, particularly on Wings of Honiemise . Both that and Voices of a Distant Star were the work of talented "novices". Both were indivdualist visions with unique storylines that allowed the creators to catupult the years of apprenticeships they would have have faced if they had gone to work for an established studio. Place Promised in Our Early Days is simply Shinkai's first work after his break.
My only concern is that he basically used a very simular storyline in both his works, I hope there is more. All the Best, Nani? |
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