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mdo7
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:50 pm
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Oh boy I didn't know this would end up into a big police investigation. I don't know if this is going to be big or scandalous.
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v1cious
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:47 pm
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Tokyo police hard at work.
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sherps
Joined: 28 Nov 2012
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:18 pm
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what?? thats outrages, i would consider that boy the luckiest kid in the world, you get to touch a famous idols nipple and you get paid for it (i think but i might be wrong)
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Blanchimont
Joined: 25 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 4:38 pm
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I remembered Young Magazine for the fact that it's the one that serializes Kissxsis.
Despite the delay/recall of YM7, the fact that they're trying to stop auctions of it and that it's easy enough to 'find' out there, I assume the circulation had already started by the time Kodansha took action?
So with issue 8, are they gonna have a double-sized issue(7+8) or simply shift release dates(7=>8, 8=>9....)? To prevent messing up the schedules of the serializations the former would be likely.
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here-and-faraway
Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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Location: Sunny California
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:03 pm
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I was a startled when I first saw the picture. Generally nudity doesn't bother me one bit, but it did seem inappropriate, I guess because they had the boy touching her breasts.
It's funny, if he were just sitting in front of a topless woman, I don't think it would have bothered me. It's that fact that they made a child, touch a grown woman's sexual parts. (Yes breasts are there for nursing too, but this obviously isn't a breastfeeding photo.)
Is it child pornography? I'm not sure. Will the child be traumatized? Probably not, thank goodness. Will someone out there use it as fapping material? Most likely.
Has anyone read Young Magazine? Do they usually try to push the envelope like this? I know they've had some racier titles, but nothing that (I think) got them into trouble. Just curious.
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invalidname
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:26 pm
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But if the magazine were just making threats against Kuroko's Basketball doujin events, then the police would have stayed out, right?
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configspace
Joined: 16 Aug 2008
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:27 pm
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here-and-faraway wrote: | It's funny, if he were just sitting in front of a topless woman, I don't think it would have bothered me. It's that fact that they made a child, touch a grown woman's sexual parts. (Yes breasts are there for nursing too, but this obviously isn't a breastfeeding photo.) |
If she were topless with him it still wouldn't be considered child porn. Even if he were touching her breasts, it still wouldn't legally be considered child porn in Japan, so long as he avoids her nipples. So yeah, breast feeding pics would apparently be considered child porn.
Anyways, the whole investigation is idiotic. It's police and the authorities exercising power for the sake of exercising power.
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JLightstar
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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Location: Venice, Florida
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:31 pm
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I understand what they are doing but doesn't it make sense for the police to talk to the photographer and the people that were there when the photo was shot along with the kid's parents? This kinda reminds me of the film "Birth" where Nicole Kidman was in the bath with a 10 year old boy and the producers said they were filmed them separately and merged it with cgi That could have been a possibility.
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Apollo-kun
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:39 pm
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invalidname wrote: | But if the magazine were just making threats against Kuroko's Basketball doujin events, then the police would have stayed out, right? |
I wish the forums had a "Like" feature just so I could throw one at this comment. So, so true.
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Apollo-kun
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:39 pm
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At what point did this seem like a good idea? No, really, I want to know.
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prabb
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 6:42 pm
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Since when does Japan care about actual child pornography? "Junior idols" are a-ok and (there's a chance I'm wrong here but) as far as I know possession of child porn isn't even a crime, just distribution. (Am I wrong about that?)
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Karisu
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:27 pm
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Why go after Kodansha? They should be going after Tomomi Kasai and the photographer.
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Emerje
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:40 pm
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here-and-faraway wrote: | Is it child pornography? I'm not sure. Will the child be traumatized? Probably not, thank goodness. Will someone out there use it as fapping material? Most likely. |
Maybe not traumatized by the photo shoot, but we'll see how he feels about breasts after the investigation.
And I'm positive someone out there has already Photoshopped the boys hands out of the picture.
No matter how I look at the boy he still just looks like a Japanese kid with his hair dyed blond. I wonder if he's really of European decent or if the investigators only assume his is because of his hair color? Well, this is a country that wants you to believe that any girl can disguise themselves as a boy simply buy putting on a hat...
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Sam Murai
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:48 pm
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Karisu wrote: | Why go after Kodansha? They should be going after Tomomi Kasai and the photographer. |
Because they are the publishers of the book and therefore assume responsibility of its content. Kasai and the photographer could be culpable, but they could likely be seen as just actors doing what they were paid to do than the absolute perpetrators. Of course, that also depends on their level of involvement and input in the decision-making process…
But either way you slice it, I would imagine someone's out of a job by now…
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TitanXL
Joined: 08 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 8:10 pm
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prabb wrote: | Since when does Japan care about actual child pornography? "Junior idols" are a-ok and (there's a chance I'm wrong here but) as far as I know possession of child porn isn't even a crime, just distribution. (Am I wrong about that?) |
You're correct, but if they're publishing/selling a magazine with the picture, then it is distribution.
invalidname wrote: | But if the magazine were just making threats against Kuroko's Basketball doujin events, then the police would have stayed out, right? |
How long do people insist on being clueless on how hard it is to catch an anonymous mailer VS a clear company to go after? Really, everytime you make a comparison to the Kuroko thing it just shows you don't really know anything about history or the world.
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