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NEWS: Tokyo: Mobile Sites, Downloads Not Subject to Youth Bill


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TopGunman



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:38 pm Reply with quote
I don't understand the bill. Does it mean that fanservice is not allowed in Shonen anime anymore or something? It's not like manga and anime about rape are sold to under 18s anyways otherwise they'd be considered Seinen at the very least if not Hentai. Or is it also they can't depict under 18s in sexual innuendo or something?

Can someone please explain it to me?
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neocloud9



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:44 pm Reply with quote
TopGunman wrote:
I don't understand the bill. Does it mean that fanservice is not allowed in Shonen anime anymore or something? It's not like manga and anime about rape are sold to under 18s anyways otherwise they'd be considered Seinen at the very least if not Hentai. Or is it also they can't depict under 18s in sexual innuendo or something?

Can someone please explain it to me?


Someone just did, on this very site.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Oh, no. I guess this means that for every new anime series being announced from here on out, viewers will have to ask themselves: "Is it going to be subject to the restrictions of the bill?"
"It probably would have been interesting if the bill never had been put in place" or "Is it in a format that is not subject to restrictions of the bill?"
Very annoying.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:20 pm Reply with quote
Well this youth bill is a complete mess.
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Nemo_N



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:42 pm Reply with quote
I wonder if this is the result of very old people not being able to acknowledge the internet...

Anyway, I hope this (and the introduction of tablet computers) will make publishers to further push for more and better digital content.
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chefneer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:45 pm Reply with quote
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The AJA said that the boycott will make it extremely difficult to maintain the event's quality. While the industry group is not in a position to decide whether to cancel the event, it described the current state of the event as "extremely unfeasible."

It looks like the publishers' boycott is definitely going to have a significant impact on TAF after all. Could it actually be cancelled?
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daggerbob



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:20 pm Reply with quote
Since internet streaming and downloads are apparently exempt from this bill it looks like we will have a lot more straight to internet anime and manga. This looks like "nails in the coffin" of print and DVD media for manga and anime. I wonder how the publishers will profit from this or the government over there skim their taxes on the products?
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Finny-chan



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:25 pm Reply with quote
chefneer wrote:
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The AJA said that the boycott will make it extremely difficult to maintain the event's quality. While the industry group is not in a position to decide whether to cancel the event, it described the current state of the event as "extremely unfeasible."

It looks like the publishers' boycott is definitely going to have a significant impact on TAF after all. Could it actually be cancelled?

Yeah it might I found this on MAL

http://gigazine.jp/img/2010/12/21/aja_taf2011/taf2011.png

The pic above shows which anime will be withdrawn from the TAF 2011 (the ones that are masked on the pic to the right are the ones being withdrawn btw)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:41 pm Reply with quote
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the AJA said that the scope of the materials covered by the amendment and the amendment's requirements are vague.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! This is the problem with the bill - not the stuff that it's specific on (reaffirming already-existent pornography restrictions) but on everything else, like what exactly they really mean by "socially disruptive" subject matter. We don't know how much interference there will be, and that's what's scary. It's one thing to say "keep porn out of the hands of middle schoolers" and another thing altogether to say "some subjects you just don't get to talk about nor are going to spell out exactly which ones, just those that are socially disruptive, whatever that means."

I mean, I think the Governor made it clear he just wants to get rid of all all the child-rape that isn't in children's manga or possibly just teh gayz who are corrupting our children. To me that last point tells you just what he means by "socially disruptive." I can't decide between Evil or Very Mad and Rolling Eyes . Do we have an angry eye roll?
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chefneer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:48 pm Reply with quote
Finny-chan wrote:
chefneer wrote:
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The AJA said that the boycott will make it extremely difficult to maintain the event's quality. While the industry group is not in a position to decide whether to cancel the event, it described the current state of the event as "extremely unfeasible."

It looks like the publishers' boycott is definitely going to have a significant impact on TAF after all. Could it actually be cancelled?

Yeah it might I found this on MAL

http://gigazine.jp/img/2010/12/21/aja_taf2011/taf2011.png

The pic above shows which anime will be withdrawn from the TAF 2011 (the ones that are masked on the pic to the right are the ones being withdrawn btw)

Almost half. Impressive. That's just from the publishers' boycott, too. If any of the anime studios were to withdraw I can see how it could get ugly in a hurry, though I've no idea how likely that is. Of course, with the City of Tokyo being on the TAF board I can see a possibility of them doing the event regardless, as ugly as it might be.
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Finny-chan



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:55 pm Reply with quote
chefneer wrote:
Finny-chan wrote:
chefneer wrote:
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The AJA said that the boycott will make it extremely difficult to maintain the event's quality. While the industry group is not in a position to decide whether to cancel the event, it described the current state of the event as "extremely unfeasible."

It looks like the publishers' boycott is definitely going to have a significant impact on TAF after all. Could it actually be cancelled?

Yeah it might I found this on MAL

http://gigazine.jp/img/2010/12/21/aja_taf2011/taf2011.png

The pic above shows which anime will be withdrawn from the TAF 2011 (the ones that are masked on the pic to the right are the ones being withdrawn btw)

Almost half. Impressive. That's just from the publishers' boycott, too. If any of the anime studios were to withdraw I can see how it could get ugly in a hurry, though I've no idea how likely that is. Of course, with the City of Tokyo being on the TAF board I can see a possibility of them doing the event regardless, as ugly as it might be.

If they do have it they probably won't see much profit seeing as how Bleach, Naruto, One Peice, Fairy Tail, Rainbow, Pokemon, Inuyasha, Sergent Frog, Dragon Ball Z, Detective Conan, Yugioh 5Ds, Doreamon, and Kimi ni Todoke just to name a few won't be there.
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chefneer



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:24 pm Reply with quote
A fair percentage of the the most popular shows worldwide. Awesome. I detect definite entertainment value in all of this. Watching it all pan out over the next several months should be interesting.

I am easily bored with all of the over-excited hyperbole on both sides of the argument, but the actual events that transpire because of it will be what determines the future course of our beloved hobby. That's what I'm looking for. I still think a legal challenge is a distinct possibility.
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darkmax



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:33 pm Reply with quote
So.... Animes like Yosuga no Sora will no longer be made? Gosh... Grow up, you old men of Japan. Get with the times, yours are over.

(Personally could not stand the last 2 episodes of Yosuga no Sora, too much incest)
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vashfanatic



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:48 pm Reply with quote
darkmax wrote:
So.... Animes like Yosuga no Sora will no longer be made? Gosh... Grow up, you old men of Japan. Get with the times, yours are over.

(Personally could not stand the last 2 episodes of Yosuga no Sora, too much incest)

No, actually, Yosuga no Sora is A-Ok so long as only adults are watching it. It's teens watching Utena or reading Prunus Girl who have something to worry about.
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egoist



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:18 pm Reply with quote
If you still don't know what this bill is about, please do us a favor:

Brain Diving
Youth Brigade: Clearing up the Tokyo Youth Ordinance Bill


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Tokyo: Mobile Site/Downloads Not Subject to Youth Bill

Dear lord. Is anyone going to help this lost sheep?

I'd say if they just printed the bill, and utilized it as toilet paper, they'd have a better idea of what they're doing.
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