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Wu Ming
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:43 am
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Recently, i became the recipient of a large swath of the "Ah My Goddess!" series, courtesy of my elder brother and his girlfriend.
And while i was laughing at the trials and tribulations of the Keiichi Morisato and Co i started to notice the electronic devices strewn about the background in the manga - the ones that look like they came from the late 80s.
Then it kind of dawned on me - they are from the late 80s! Its been about twenty years real time and Morisato's life has only progressed about a year and a half "manga time!"
That got me thinking though, and so i wanted to ask if anyone could point other popular series that have gone into this kind of unending time warp. Many of the other series i've read tend to wrap up in a few years real time or if they decline going down that path try to place the setting in a "timeless present."
The other thing i wanted to ask is about what i'll term as "Creator-Abandoned" Manga. Its a bit of a misnomer as i can't come up with a better phrase, because what i'm referring to are those types of projects that mangaka have on their "to-do" list and sometimes attend to but then push off for another few years before revisiting the series again for a little bit.
This could be for a variety of reasons, take Eri Takenashi's Kannagi hiatus.
Are they are any popular works that people have been dying to read but the author has declined from cranking out the story on a timely basis for publication?
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littlegreenwolf
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:46 am
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Wu Ming wrote: | The other thing i wanted to ask is about what i'll term as "Creator-Abandoned" Manga. Its a bit of a misnomer as i can't come up with a better phrase, because what i'm referring to are those types of projects that mangaka have on their "to-do" list and sometimes attend to but then push off for another few years before revisiting the series again for a little bit.
This could be for a variety of reasons, take Eri Takenashi's Kannagi hiatus.
Are they are any popular works that people have been dying to read but the author has declined from cranking out the story on a timely basis for publication? |
CLAMP is like a kid with ADD. Once they lose interest, or get distracted by something else, they don't seem to ever go back. Series like X, Clover, and CLAMP Campus detectives are some of the titles they just dropped, but I think the first two were originally for reasons concerning the magazine they were published in. I heard Asuka magazine that published X didn't like how violent it was getting and the magazine that was publishing Clover just went out of business.
Alichino is another series that was dropped, and it's also because the magazine that published it, died.
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Pleinair
Joined: 23 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:40 pm
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On the CLAMP train, shouldn't leave out Legal Drug. I get sad whenever I see it on my shelves.
I was going to mention Alichino as well.
And Cowboy Bebop: Shooting Star stopped abruptly, but that series was canceled. A pity, it was an interesting little manga.
Afraid I can't be much more helpful with this topic, I know more when the US drops titles, which isn't the artist in the slightest.
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Tamaria
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:58 am
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I wonder what happened to Immortal Rain. Volume 8 can't be the final volume and I heard there is a ninth one in Japan.
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comicbookman1812
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:13 am
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*sigh cries* Priest (technically manwha koren).tokoyopop used to publish it but ever since volmume 16 it has litreally vanished. I've searched high and low on all manner of webstites and forums but nothing. it ends talking about the next volume to come this was in 2007. if its abandoned or not i have no idea cant find out. its the series that got me reading manga in the first place (have a tattoo on each arm of 2 of the covers). its easily the best and my favorite I've ever read so far.
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jjwitdaheydiddydiddy
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:18 am
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This happened with Yami no Matsuei. The last volume was released in 2001, but Matsushita's gotten back to work, and a new volume just came out on Jan. 19th. Yippee!!
But there's no info on whether or not it will be serialized again. It could be another 8 years before the next one comes out.
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OLady
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:43 am
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[quote="Pleinair"]On the CLAMP train, shouldn't leave out Legal Drug. I get sad whenever I see it on my shelves.
Yeah, I squirm, pull my hair and gnash my teeth over Legal Drug and I don't even like yaoi.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who wonders about Immortal Rain.
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OLady
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:55 am
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Sorry, I forgot another dropped series I'm really sad about: Blood Alone. Infinity Studios did such a good job maintaining Japanese publishing standards ( Dust jackets, several pages of color art, good paper, good translations), but went out of business. There was (I think) only 1 more volume to go. My stomach churns when I think about it.
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stuckinfresno
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:48 pm
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jjwitdaheydiddydiddy wrote: | This happened with Yami no Matsuei. The last volume was released in 2001, but Matsushita's gotten back to work, and a new volume just came out on Jan. 19th. Yippee!!
But there's no info on whether or not it will be serialized again. It could be another 8 years before the next one comes out. |
Seriously!! Because I've been waiting for so long. Granted I've read the 21 chapters worth of scans that are available (and the resolution was junk too since they are all magazine scans), but I'd love an actual vol in my hands. Now the biggest question is whether VIZ would be willing to publish again.
I also have to second Priest. I seriously wished that it continued.
The only other one I can think of is Crayon Shin Chan which is incomplete due to the creator's death.
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RestLessone
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:27 pm
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I have to agree with Legal Drug. I borrowed the three volumes from a friend and enjoyed it, and would even consider buying the series, but only if CLAMP would actually take it up again. I think the magazine ended, but I still don't see why it takes so long to find another (I mean, they are CLAMP after all). They just seem to keep starting series and never get around to finishing them, all the while dropping others.
Would Trash by Sanami Matoh count? Honestly, I don't think it was intended to be a one-shot, but don't know if was dropped, either. The magazine appears to be continuing, though...Well, I'll pretend it hasn't been dropped and just say that I wish it would continue. Though not awesome, it was quirky and interesting, and I enjoyed the character designs. If it was meant to be a one-shot, well...Pretty bad as far as they go, 'cause it never actually got around to the main plot point with Cross and had a "see you again" note (which, admittedly, was at the end of every chapter).
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PaniPoni61
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 6:53 pm
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i already know of the blow-up between the animators of the anime series, and how they got ahead of the manga, but i really do wish that Peach Pit would continue with the Rozen Maiden series.
Unless of course, i somehow missed anthing past the uber-skinny volume 8. i mean, i appreciate that Tokyopop got that far, but c'mon. Plus, it doesn't help that around here, the only places that have any manga are Barnes & Noble, Books-a-Million, and a local comic shop that has a minimal selection at best.
And for the love of fillinthedeityofchoicehere, will Shoulder-A-Coffin Kuro 3 EVER get released?
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OLady
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:36 pm
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Quote: | will Shoulder-A-Coffin Kuro 3 EVER get released? |
This one has been recommended to me, but I haven't seen it.
It's hard nowadays to determine whether a hiatus has actually occurred or just the release dates have been pushed back (ad infinitum et nauseum). Several of the series I collect seem to have stalled (Ghost Hunt, La Corda d'Oro, Rasetsu, etc.). But, if I remember correctly, there was a year between Immortal Rain 7 and 8 because of the author's ill health. I seem to find things out only by accident, so I don't know if that applies to any of this.
Manga readership is down in Japan and that has to affect our market. But it would be nice to hear about the contract renegotiations that must be going on so we know better what and when to expect.
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stuckinfresno
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:37 pm
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PaniPoni61 wrote: | And for the love of fillinthedeityofchoicehere, will Shoulder-A-Coffin Kuro 3 EVER get released? |
I understand the frustration but in this case it appears to be an abandoned series. According to mangaupdates.com the series is on hiatus so there is nothing to publish. A real shame too because I liked that series as well.
Also I wanted to add Dokebi Bride as a ?possibly? abandoned series. There isn't activity from NetComics even as a webcomic.
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PaniPoni61
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Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:40 pm
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OLady, if you haven't read Shoulder-a-Coffin Kuro, to be honest, i don't know which way to recommend going. There is humor, there is whimsy, there is melancholia out the yingyang. It's beautifully done, in Kiyuduki's own style, which a lot of people either love or hate. If you are looking for a comedy, though there is plenty, it's mostly either sarcastic or ironic, gently done each way. There are, in the first 2 volumes-especially 2-some downright disheartening moments, that'll tear at your heart. The thing is, once you get through 2, you could fall into the same predicament as i have.
There is some comfort though. It's called GA, Geijutsuka Art Design Class, the manga AND the anime. I picked up the first volume of the manga probably late summer last year. When #2 came out later, i had probably already re-read vol1 at least 7-8 times. Then, when i had a facepalm moment, i found the anime series. Probably have watched it through at least 3 times, and even have the soundtrack (a most definite plus!). When i found out Kiyuduki also does video game art, and the GA ova (due out soon, i think) en route, well, i can see how it's been a busy time. Perhaps that's a reason S-a-C Kuro 3 is on delay (yeah, or if it's been given up on.....shades of Ninin ga Shinobuden, batman!).
i have another possible idea. Longshot? mebbe.
Perhaps Kiyduki couldn't get past #2, perhaps couldn't decide when, where, or how Kuro's journey would end. i can imagine making decisions like that could be difficult. (see the SZS anime regarding the Japanese love of "process") If it's not a happy ending, a lot of people would be unhappy. To alienate a portion of the readers or not to? That begs the question.
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OLady
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Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:11 am
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Thanks for the insight, PaniPoni. I suppose I'll have to decide about SaC-Kuro when I see it. I seem to gravitate toward love stories, supernaturals, mysteries and historicals right now.
On one or more forums I check into periodically, someone said that series truncated because the house went under were usually picked up by another publisher. I haven't seen that so far. Also that American publishers contracted for entire series. To my way of thinking, if that is so, the creators should be obligated to finish the series. Apparently, I'm wrong.
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