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BorgmanJayce
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Why am I not surprised that once again CR can't be bothered with the UK when it comes to live-action shows!
This is why I will never subscribe to these guys; not least the fact that they charge the same price for a subscription here as in the US and we get less value for money as we don't get as much value for money here! Hell, we don't even get the option to watch the Toei shows, let alone the live-action stuff which is silly as there's quite a few people I know who are into dramas from Japan, China, Hong Kong and Korea who would pay for a subscription just to watch stuff like this! At the end of the day, both companies have missed out on a valuable opportunity to make money from a important market like the UK and I wouldn't be too surprised if more fansubs of TVB shows are downloaded as a result of this snub. |
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agila61
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Tai Seng is the right holder. I take it that you are suggesting that Crunchyroll should have refused to sell the technology to Tai Seng because Tai Seng does not hold UK rights? And why just the UK? Should Crunchyroll refuse to sell their technology to anyone who does not have EU-wide rights? EU/ANZ? EU/ANZ/ASEAN? Worldwide? Precisely are you arguing that Crunchyroll should have done differently? Or, more plausibly, are you just reaching for a vaguely related opportunity to soapbox on your favourite whinge? Edit: Indeed, on consideration, this news story is further evidence against the "Crunchyroll does not care about the UK" line of argument. First, only half of the simulcasts were getting to the UK, So "CR does not care about the UK". Then it was raised to 4/5, and then all but one ... so then it was the K-dramas are not available in the UK, so "CR does not care about the UK". Now shinji has repeatedly said that CR not only wants to, but will, make content available anywhere they can get the rights, and they try to get the broadest possible rights. But "he's just saying that". Now, independent confirmation: the problem is that East Asian rights holders view the US market and European markets differently, because here is a case where CR is only providing the technology and the entire decision of where to make the content available on a subscriber-only site lies with the East Asian rights holder ... and they target the US alone. That suggests that rather than CR being responsible for the UK getting less content that otherwise, CR is rather responsible for the UK getting more content than otherwise. Which would mean that your individual crusade against Crunchyroll is a fight against the UK getting more content. |
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BorgmanJayce
Posts: 298 Location: Hades via UK |
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*facepalm* Did you even bother to read my post in its entirety? Where did I suggest in it that CR should have refused to sell the technology to Tai Seng because Tai Seng supposedly don't hold UK rights or don't want to sell UK rights? I mean, there's a huge market for this sort of thing in the UK, especially for people from Chinese-speaking countries such as China, Hong Kong and Singapore who either work here or study here and who would love to see their favorite shows from TVB/Tai Seng online legally in the UK (The only two satellite channels dedicated to the Chinese market on Sky Digital are PCNE and CCTV; both of which are aimed at those who speak Mandarin Chinese with most of the other foreign language channels being aimed at the Indian/Pakistan/Bangladeshi communities which in the UK are referred to as Asians whereas we don't refer to people from other Asian countries like Japan and China as Asians that much) but can't get access to the videos on the official TVB/Tai Seng sites. Here's another example of the current problem where rights issues are concerned. I'm not happy that I can't watch certain shows online like Kamen Rider Dragon Knight on the 4Kids site (or any shows on the US MTV/VH1 sites), but I'm not bothered because I'll just download the episodes online instead and show my support by buying merchandise based on the show. It's clearly obvious that you're a CR apologist by the way that you're trying to accuse me of saying stuff that I didn't say. At the end of the day, if Tai Seng don't want to sell the rights for their shows to CR for other countries outside North America and Asia, that's their choice, but it doesn't mean that we in the UK who would love to see these shows have to grin and bear it, especially as CR don't offer a reduced-price premium subscription where the drama shows aren't included and is available all over the world. It would just be good business practice for a site like CR to offer more than one option for a premium subscription. It's as if you're basically saying that we shouldn't be wasting our time complaining to CR or Tai Seng or whoever owns the rights to various Korean/Japanese dramas available on CR. Or for those of lesser intelligence; It's like this: Say you go to a buffet restaurant and the sign says "All you can eat for 9.99!" You go into the restaurant after 5.30PM and you get told that the price isn't 9.99 but 15.00 after 5.30PM! You protest and complain and the manager explains that the price IS 9.99 but only before 5.30PM and that they weren't running false advertising about the price being 9.99 in the window. Look at it this way... There will always be people in the UK who are willing to pay for a Premium Subscription (a few of my FB friends have Premium Subs themselves) if it means getting to see shows like Bleach, Naruto and REBORN! a week before the free members get to see the latest episode, whereas others like myself who know we wouldn't get value for money for buying a Premium Membership don't buy said Membership (In any case, I'm going to University this year so I have better things to spend my money on including a PS3 and a brand new iPod Touch... plus coursebooks as well!.  )
Also, look at it this way... Pretty Cure is coming out in the UK next week on PopGirl and PopGirl +1 (In fact, I was the person who notified ANN that the English dub was being shown over here!) and what's the odds a lot of Pretty Cure fanboys/girls in the US would be hypocritical and start whining and moaning about how it's not fair that we get to see it over here and they don't get to see the show in the US! If they wanted to complain to someone, then they should compain to Toei's US office as they're the ones who make the final decision whereas for the UK screenings, Toei Europe are probably involved. BTW, your argument is also moot because I actually emailed CR soon after I made my original post here and I got a nice reply from one of the Community Managers about why they couldn't get the rights to live-action dramas from places like Hong Kong and Korea, so at least they were willing to acknowledge my complaint, which means my respect for them has gone up a bit. As for this subject being my favorite subject whinge on these boards... You're not stalking me by any chance, are you?[/sarcasm Simon Cowell-style but without the high-waisted trousers!] Finally, why do you think my so-called crusade against CR is a individual one? I have no problem with CR getting more content for the UK market, it's just that I and many others here in the UK (and also on the CR community forums) resent the thought of having to pay full-price for a subscription which doesn't offer full-value for money unlike in North America. In this case, it's more the fault of certain rights-holders (the biggest guilty party being ironically enough; Toei!) either not being willing to sell the European rights or they want more money than CR are willing to pay. And why do you have a problem against me saying what I do about CR? It's not as if I do it on a daily basis (after all, I do have a thing called a "life" unlike certain denizens of this very forum!) and as long as nobody is getting defamed (that means "insulted" for those of lesser intelligence), people should be allowed to express their views no matter how controversial. After all, don't you Americans have a thing called the "First Something-or-Other?" (And before any Americans get pissed off at me, yes I know what the First Amendment is all about, plus I have a cousin who's American and she's taught me a lot about American history as she knows I have a interest in world history) |
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