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partially
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:28 pm
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heh I am always amused by sales charts where later books sell better than earlier books. I always read/buy things sequentially, so can't understand those that don't.
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cosplayz
Joined: 26 Apr 2010
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:20 pm
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Oricon evidently made a mistake with Naruto's sales. It had 4 million sales in the year at May, so it's impossible that it went and sold 11 million in a span of 3 months.
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Sailor S
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:40 am
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Wasn't it not all that long ago that some people were trying to say that One Piece was losing popularity and were predicting doom and gloom for the franchise? Yup, sure seems like it's barely hanging in there
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teh*darkness
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:02 am
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Sailor S wrote: | Wasn't it not all that long ago that some people were trying to say that One Piece was losing popularity and were predicting doom and gloom for the franchise? Yup, sure seems like it's barely hanging in there |
I once had some fanboy on IRC trying to tell me that Naruto was more popular in Japan than One Piece, just because Naruto had its own festival. I tried pointing out that a louder and more vocal/avid fanbase does not equal more popular. But he wouldn't have any of it. I mean, pointing out sales numbers to the guy meant nothing, because obviously, if X sells more copies than Y, consistently, month after month, volume after volume, year after year... Y must be more popular. Fanboy logic ftw.
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HuskofDaimao
Joined: 03 Aug 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:08 am
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Well, Naruto is more popular than One Piece in America.
The same goes for Pokemon, Dragon Ball, and Yi-Gi-Oh by a landslide.... in addition to Bleach, Sailor Moon, Cowboy Bebop, probably YuYuHakusho and other anime classics. As far as all-time popularity of action comics and cartoons, it would go Dragon Ball > One Piece in Japan, and the same results throughout the rest of the world, except Naruto is immensely more popular than One Piece around the world.
One Piece is thriving in Japan for sure, but elsewhere it's irrelevant.
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Sunday Silence
Joined: 22 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:03 am
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Sailor S wrote: | Wasn't it not all that long ago that some people were trying to say that One Piece was losing popularity and were predicting doom and gloom for the franchise? Yup, sure seems like it's barely hanging in there |
And wasn't it also that the companies were complaining that they were loosing sales to the pirates?
Seeing that One Piece is one of the most pirated manga out there.....you mad?
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fishsticks
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:01 am
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One Piece has got to be one of the most famous manga in Japan.. since not many manga stars can be coverboy for a fashion magazine...
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eichi-kun
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:51 am
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HuskofDaimao wrote: | Well, Naruto is more popular than One Piece in America.
The same goes for Pokemon, Dragon Ball, and Yi-Gi-Oh by a landslide.... in addition to Bleach, Sailor Moon, Cowboy Bebop, probably YuYuHakusho and other anime classics. As far as all-time popularity of action comics and cartoons, it would go Dragon Ball > One Piece in Japan, and the same results throughout the rest of the world, except Naruto is immensely more popular than One Piece around the world.
One Piece is thriving in Japan for sure, but elsewhere it's irrelevant. |
so what if one piece not popular in america, how many volume naruto sold outside japan??? 20 million?
the fact is japanese know which series is better and the best
ps; sorry, poor english
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youjik33
Joined: 03 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:52 pm
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This doesn't entirely surprise me but WOW are those some staggering numbers.
When I was in Japan back in 2003 it seemed like everyone, kids and adults alike, watched or read One Piece. It's fairly rare for manga to have THAT huge a crossover audience, though Detective Conan seemed really popular among the 20-somethings I hung out with.
Also, I don't think One Piece is "unpopular" in the US just because it's less popular than Naruto or Bleach. It seems to be growing in popularity fairly steadily if the cosplayers and dealer's room goods are any indication.
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teh*darkness
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:17 pm
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HuskofDaimao wrote: | Well, Naruto is more popular than One Piece in America.
The same goes for Pokemon, Dragon Ball, and Yi-Gi-Oh by a landslide.... in addition to Bleach, Sailor Moon, Cowboy Bebop, probably YuYuHakusho and other anime classics. As far as all-time popularity of action comics and cartoons, it would go Dragon Ball > One Piece in Japan, and the same results throughout the rest of the world, except Naruto is immensely more popular than One Piece around the world.
One Piece is thriving in Japan for sure, but elsewhere it's irrelevant. |
Since it seems you were replying to me, I'd like to know how your post is not irrelevant in light of what I said? I did not mention any other countries, as they were not part of the discussion, or even the article. And the guy I was arguing with online was in some small "self-described" third-world country which he wouldn't specify, so I doubt they had much of any domestic anime/manga market to speak of. The entirety of my post and the point of the article, was One Piece is more popular than Naruto, not how One Piece ranks against every other shounen series in Japan or outside Japan. Thanks for the off-topic comment, though. *thumbs up*
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koinosuke
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:28 pm
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HuskofDaimao wrote: | Well, Naruto is more popular than One Piece in America.
The same goes for Pokemon, Dragon Ball, and Yi-Gi-Oh by a landslide.... in addition to Bleach, Sailor Moon, Cowboy Bebop, probably YuYuHakusho and other anime classics. As far as all-time popularity of action comics and cartoons, it would go Dragon Ball > One Piece in Japan, and the same results throughout the rest of the world, except Naruto is immensely more popular than One Piece around the world.
One Piece is thriving in Japan for sure, but elsewhere it's irrelevant. |
But you know what the difference is? In America and elsewhere, Naruto may be more popular than One Piece, but the thing is that popularity is based on a scale in which neither are really mainstream. In America, Naruto is popular with some kids and anime fans. In Japan, One Piece is popular with people in almost every demographic and is extremely visible basically no matter where you go. There really is no contest in trying to compare what is basically a large fan following of Naruto internationally and the actual huge mainstream place One Piece has in Japanese culture.
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saiyajedi
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:45 pm
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The passage that gave ANN trouble was this:
Oricon wrote: | 同じく今年、シリーズ総売上2位のコミック『NARUTO-ナルト-』(集英社)には1500万部以上の大差をつけている
Likewise, in this year, it has created a wide gulf of over 15 million copies between it and the #2 comic in total sales, NARUTO (Shueisha). |
It's pretty clear-cut: either someone was skimming the article and didn't bother checking their work before hitting "submit", or they were Japanese-deficient and let their North American expectations fill in the lexical gaps.
Personally, I was hoping for Naruto fans to come in here touting the "15 million copies" thing before the correction. Oh, well.
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syrianmj
Joined: 06 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:46 pm
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saiyajedi wrote: | The passage that gave ANN trouble was this:
Oricon wrote: | 同じく今年、シリーズ総売上2位のコミック『NARUTO-ナルト-』(集英社)には1500万部以上の大差をつけている
Likewise, in this year, it has created a wide gulf of over 15 million copies between it and the #2 comic in total sales, NARUTO (Shueisha). |
It's pretty clear-cut: either someone was skimming the article and didn't bother checking their work before hitting "submit", or they were Japanese-deficient and let their North American expectations fill in the lexical gaps.
Personally, I was hoping for Naruto fans to come in here touting the "15 million copies" thing before the correction. Oh, well. |
oricon wrote exactly
Also this year, total sales second comic series, NARUTO-Naruto - 』(Shueisha) is having a huge lead of more than 15 million copies.
so what is that exactly I didnot get it
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syrianmj
Joined: 06 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:52 pm
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please Adminstration tell us the truth cause saiyajedi
brought 2 us a another article not the real one
and she obviously hates Naruto
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Megiddo
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:17 pm
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The truth is reflected in the update to this news post.
One Piece has sold 20+ million volumes so far in 2010, which is 15 million more than the next highest selling franchise (Naruto)
EDIT: hahahah! He used Google Translate. I was trying to figure out how he got such a horrible Engrish translation.
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