Forum - View topicSave Jojos Bizarre Adventure from cancelation!!!
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iamragmar
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When the 2d fighting game of Jojos Bizarre Adventure came out, I bought it just because of the genre it was, but when I played it for a while, it had a profound and inspiring effect on my imagination and I was definitely changed by it. It had some of the most weird and wonderfully absurd ideas I’ve ever witnessed and the visual style was very personal and idiosyncratic.
I found out that most of the stories, characters and ideas in the game were taken from the third series of an epic comic that has been running in Japan since the late eighties and is currently on its seventh series. The American Viz editions of the third series will finish at 16 volumes by the end of this year and unless the sales pick up dramatically in that time, the series will be cancelled and it will be a very long time before anyone ever considers translating and printing the fourth series and onwards. This CANNOT happen. The popularity of manga and anime in the west has evolved into something really horrible in a lot of ways, because a lot of the key franchises from Japan that got people interested in Manga in the first place have been seriously neglected in the past decade. In the eighties and nineties a lot of what was attracting people to Japanese art and entertainment was instense, visceral and insane. The Japan of Shinya Tsukamoto, Takashi Miike, Strange Circus, Crazy Lips, Melt Banana and The Boredoms. Now, so much of what is imported is inane, generic, predictable and often lacking any distinctive qualities at all, somehow that stuff sells really well. If you were living in the start of the nineties and were told that there would come an enormous explosion of manga imports, you would probably assume that Devilman and Fist of the Northstar would be among the first to be completed. To this day neither of those has been even halfway translated into English print, yet they were very important to getting the interest started. I don’t think Go Nagai has had any single one of his stories completed in English yet he is a very important manga giant. Shigeru Mizuki too. There was briefly a nice amount of great horror work from Hideshi Hino, Junji Ito, Kazuo Umezu and Suehiro Maruo, but all that has dried up now and many of their great works are still unavailable to us. Clearly people are not buying the good stuff. Show support for the more interesting side of manga and maybe that will fight away the generic crap and give manga the reputation it deserves and have a positive influence on the comic industry in general. If you want wonderful glam rock homoeroticism, abundant funny music references, vampire hunters in Egypt, tarot card imagery, violent wine spitting, decapitated heads fighting with their last breath, zipper portals, tidal waves of cars, maniacs in fridges with killer puppets, fighters wielding fishing rods, perverse orangutans and fantastic artwork, BUY JOJOS BIZARRE ADVENTURE!!! Jojo is enormously influential and a lot of the kids reading the current new generation of manga don’t realise how much their favourite stuff takes from Jojo. . Jojo is one of the top ten most popular manga series in Japan and it has a healthy following in Italy and France, don’t make America and Britain look stupid by saying “that looks too weird and camp for me”. Just buy them. I’m going to post this message any relevant place I can and I’d appreciate it if every Jojo fan or anyone sympathetic to this cause spread the word around and make some noise about this, I cant do this by myself. http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=224 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JoJo's_Bizarre_Adventure [Mod Edit: I know you apparently like this title, but it's really not necessary to spam the thread with tons of pictures, particularly when the pictures aren't really relevant since anyone who cares is already going to know what the title looks like. If you absolutely feel that you need to include pictures even if they're not all that important to the topic, then just link to them instead of filling the thread with 3 screen lengths of images from the manga. - Keonyn] |
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Tamaria
 Posts: 1512 Location: De Achterhoek |
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Protip: Start writing for an anime magazine or website if you want to brainwash people. It works! 
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Levitz9
 Posts: 1022 Location: Puerto Rico |
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'Kay, see, here's a problem with JoJo: Llook through the lists of names and stands. Foo Fighters, Grateful Dead, Stairway to Heaven...a lot of them are band names. So, where's the problem in that? If Viz licenses the following parts of JoJo, they have to deal with those names. Do they keep them as-is, and risk big lawsuits from the bands? Do they change a whole pile of names and risk pissing off a devoted fanbase?
That puts them between a rock and a hard place, I think--not what Viz wants to do. As much as I love JoJo, I doubt we'll be seeing more no matter what we do. Viz is just happy churning out the Big Three, and it's keeping them afloat. No need to do more. They're trying to make money, and that's sadly not something JoJo will help with. Also, too many people get turned off by the artwork. |
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The Xenos
 Posts: 1519 Location: Boston |
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Wait... one of the later stands or characters was named The Foo Fighters? Ha.
Anyway, that sucks that the series is tanking. I've been ordering all the Viz editions. I can see how the names -could- be a problem. The trick is that they're relatively minor characters and as much as I like JoJo, the book is pretty low profile. I honestly don't think it would be a problem if a character shares the name of a band. Then again, you never know. Just ask Todd MacFarlane and Tony Twist. |
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GATSU
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It's not technically being canceled. Viz always only intended to release the arc which was adapted into an anime back when STA was putting it out on DVD here. FWIW, we're just lucky that they even got this far, given that STA's been forced to bail out of the R1 market. Maybe we'll get lucky, though, and S23 will rescue the OVAs and Phantom Blood. BTW, they managed to keep Vanilla Ice's name in the U.S. version, even though his career is not dead yetp.
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IncompetentOverlord
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Well this sucks. I guess we should all put on our freakish Jotaro-brand hair hats and order multiple copies of each volume. I know I will. Seriously, I made one of those hats.
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Buster Blader 126
 Posts: 1207 Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada |
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It also doesn't help that Jojo sold poorly.
It was initially being released quarterly, but then it went to being released once every four months. A number of Viz's poor sellers (both SJ and their regular line) wound up in that schedule, including Firefigher Daigo, Whistle!, Dr. Slump and Ultimate Muscle, for example. |
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IncompetentOverlord
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Yeah, that doesn't help. But I'm gonna try my hardest to save this little gem of the freakish and copyrighted. I've been trying to get my brother hooked on Jojo's and I think it's working, and I won't let him read my copies, so that's another 16 sold.
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Drmke
 Posts: 14 Location: Tennessee |
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Even that won't help though ^^
VIZ can pretty much already tell how well the rest of the series would sell based of this since its consider the most popular part of JoJo. It sucks that the rest will probably never see the light of day here unless some other publisher gets it form VIZ, but sometimes that's just how it is. |
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IncompetentOverlord
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I guess, but I think that the manga would've done better if they ran it in Shonen Jump USA first. Hey, it worked for Hikaru no Go!(and it may work for that totally inept piece of shit Toriko)
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vashna
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Toriko's not that bad in my opinion, though its really quite strange and isn't exactly a deep manga.
Jojo's probably would have done better in Shonen Jump. I think it would be seen as less of a niche series if that were the case, really. |
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IncompetentOverlord
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Toriko is not strange. AT ALL. It's probably the epitome of generic Shonen Jump gag manga. The art's kinda nice(it reminds me of Toriyama at his best) but it just does not have anything that might make it worthwhile over genuinely wierd-ass titles like Jojo's and Ultimate Muscle.
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GATSU
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I think if you really wanna help Jojo, you'll ask your favorite anime distributor to license the Phantom Blood anime.
vash: I think Jojo would've bombed in Shonen Jump, 'cus the target audience is too young to get the band references and deal with the violent content. |
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vashna
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Couldn't it be argued that every generic Shonen Jump gag manga is at least a little strange?
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Psycho_Despair
Posts: 376 Location: East of Eden |
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I must have been brainwashed, now I feel like buying Jojo's manga
Well this manga has been on my list for a awhile now, I guess I should start buying them |
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