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Jump Guru
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Hollywood is really starting to piss me off. The reason they make all these movies is because they already have a built in franchise (that doesn't make me go though.) But it still ticks me off, they have already made a joke out of Dragon Ball (okay it was a bit cheesy, but they didn't really help) and now they're going to butcher Robotech, Cowboy Bebop, Afro Samurai, and Space Adventure Cobra all because they don't have any ideas and don't know a thing about anime.
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egoist
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I'd say they should let the japanese get more involved in those movies. Mainly because the story is japanese to begin with, so to keep the originality japanese people involvement would be essential.
But well, who knows what they are thinking, they probably just want all the credit for themselves. |
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Johnny_Astro
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Ah yes I remember being very surprised they were making the Cowboy Bebop movie. I think the last time I checked wikipedia Keanu Reeves is confirmed as Spike Speagal. Well to put it in Keanu's words, "Whoa."
On a slightly off-topic tangent anyone here know Stonecold Steve Austin? The wrestler from Texas? Well I remember watching that movie where he is forced in an island with other people like him, forced to fight each other for their freedom, and if they refuse to kill each other they die. Yeah well, I liked that movie better when it was called "Battle Royale." And when it wasn't mutilated by Hollywood. |
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Ardlien
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I dunno...from what I've seen of japanese live-action adaptations I doubt they'd improve much.
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DragonsRevenge
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Afro Samurai was made for an american audience in the first place, wasn't it? Wasn't it a special collaboration b/t Spike and Gonzo? Otherwise yeah, Live action adaptations of any animated franchise are pretty horrible. They didn't exactly do a bang up job with Scooby Doo, Rocky and Bullwinkle, Dudley Doo Right, Josie and the Pussiecats, Alvin and the Chipmunks, etc.
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ikillchicken
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Aw yeah, they'll totally ruin Afro Samurai. I mean, they'll probably totally Americanize it. You just know they won't cast a Japanese guy as Afro. Plus they'll probably make the dialogue all hip and 'street' or whatever. Ninja Ninja will be all like: "Yo Afro, What Up!?" Oh man, that would be such a butchering. |
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PetrifiedJello
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Staring to? Your opinion shouldn't be surprising, as Hollywood's always been notorious for doing things like this. But we can't discount that Hollywood does produce some good things. When they went through the video game adaptation, we got the Resident Evil movies. Not the greatest, but certainly much, much better than Doom, Mario Bros., and Street Fighter to name a few. The latest craze of comic adaptations brought us two of the greatest Batman movies ever made. As a fan, I've waited years for movies like this which weren't decked out in campy story plots and characters. Ugh, those movies of the 80s/90s were just horrid. Prior to that, the only Batman series worth owning was Batman: Animated Series before it was turned into a "franchise", killing it off because fans objected to the changes. While I do hold reservations over the Cowboy Bebop movie, they're slowly being removed as every step of production has to be approved by the original series creators. That's a great thing, as this limits Hollywood's idiocy for throwing in what they want. I would suspect this series may do very well, as those not familiar with the anime, but who are with Keanu, may boost ticket sales. This, if well done, could lead to a movie franchise. I remember when people panned Titanic before it was even released, especially at how it would never make up the budget it cost to produce it. I believe these people are still eating crow given Titanic retains the #1 best selling movie ever made. It makes me ecstatic The Dark Knight is second on that list. Fans objected to the Dragonball movie because it strayed too far. Hollywood does listen, but it takes them a few bombs before they get the message. Also, never forget you have the final say in the matter simply by not spending a dime on the movie. |
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RestLessone
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Adaptions have been going on forever. It's not necessarily a case of running out of ideas; often, I've seen a person or a group of people who really enjoy the original work and want to show it to the masses, rather than a group of people in a niche fandom. After that, thins get messy. It's probably the argument of whether or not things need to be Americanized to bring in crowds; obviously, some will be needed to an extent, but "how far is too far" remains a debate.
Don't give up faith just yet. Cowboy Bebop I'm still a bit hesitant about. I'm not a fan of the series (I've seen, like, one or two episodes), but I know something about the characters. Keanu Reeves may not be the best choice, but apparently Sunrise and some of the original production team are assisting with the movie. I can't say much for Dragonball, simply because I don't know what possessed them to make any of those choices...But hopefully someone out there has learned a lesson, and the creators for the other movies will be a bit more careful. Besides, as much as anyone complains about American remakes, they never seem to realize that the exact same thing happens in other countries. It's not like America is the only one doing it. Not to mention, many Japanese live-action films (and dramas) of manga and anime aren't exactly the most perfect thing in the world. |
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Johnny_Astro
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To support that statement I have but two words: JAPANESE SPIDER-MAN Well, that aside I'm actually a huge fan of some Japanese drama shows. I remember, Hana Yori Dango was the one that brought me in, even though it's based on a manga, then an anime, now 2 seasons of a really great show and a movie feature (with the show's cast/characters). Back to the topic, I don't know of much Americanization of animes, but I think anime right now is definitely becoming more mainstream, so perhaps at one point we'll see more adaptations. Naruto: The Movie Starring Jason Stathom as Naruto |
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Blackpeppir
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Awesome, knowing hollywood though, it'd be more akin to Johnny Depp as Kakashi and the Jonas brothers as the rest of team 7. |
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Johnny_Astro
Posts: 34 Location: California |
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Well I actually have my hopes up for a Jason Stathom Naruto, cause I wanna see the scene where he's like:
"Bloody hell mate I need to be my village's Hokage before my strawberry tart goes out." *Revs his engine, and proceeds to run over all the bad guys.* I also have the personal philosophy that you can never have too much Jason Stathom, so when he uses his Shadow Clone technique then there'll be that much more whoop-arse! EDIT: I think I understand the OP's inclusion of Afro Samurai. He probably means that the anime itself shows how the Western production team have created an anime strongly tries too hard to appeal to Westerners. I personally liked the show, but I will agree that the mega boombox rap music in Feudal Japan was overkill, but it was pretty cool. |
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Keonyn
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What about Japanese adaptations of works from other countries? You know what pisses me off? This obsession with attacking "Hollywood" (as if it's some kind of collective) and all the generalizations that come with it, particularly since every medium in every country similarly adapts for their audiences just as Hollywood does.
You think "The Count of Monte Cristo" involved the moon or vampires? Sorry, but it's just as "butchered" as any adaptations Hollywood does, and you could consider it anime-ized for the anime fans instead. You see it as a great title or as tolerable because, in this case, the adaptation changes leaned towards your preferences instead of away, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the same thing. Then how about the "Batman" anime? Or the "Highlander" anime? Heck, there's even a rendition of "Les Miserables" in anime form, or "A Dog of Flanders". Even Fritz Langs "Metropolis" saw a rendition based off of it. The list really goes on, and fans of the originals and purists devoted to their medium as you are to anime might see it as just as much of a "butcher" as you see in these Hollywood cases. Hate them all you want, but stop with the pretending that this is somehow uniquely Hollywood. You don't enjoy the adaptations? Well that's great, they weren't made for you, but for a different audience. Just as it doesn't matter that I found the above listed adaptations enjoyable because, as fans of the original, they were simply not catering to my tastes but towards anime fans instead. I may also be an anime fan, but I have too much respect for the originals to see them the way those adaptations made them. |
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Hachiman76
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Me and adaptations have had an interesting run. On one hand, "Dragonball Evolution" was painful. I am a life-long Dragonball fan, and to see something so...ugh, I feel a headache coming on. On the other hand, slightly off topic, I love the Super Mario Bros. movie even though I know I shouldn't, same goes for the Mortal Kombat movie.
As for future adaptations, the one that comes to mind most is the Akira adaptation (if it's still going). How they are going to manage the last scene without it being unbelievably retarded is beyond me. |
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RedLeader
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Hollywood brings an interesting dichotemy (sp?). While Hollywood has the needed special effects to make just about ANYTHING truely believable (a big MUST for anime adaptations), they ALWAYS screw things up royally re-interpretting the work in some god awful way that's not even close to what it should be. Granted, they've had some success in the past with American comic book characters but... I truly wish they'd get it right with anime or games just ONCE.
I don't really want to think about the Cowboy Bebop movie...  Not with Keanu Reeves... I'm crossing my fingers with Robotech but I'm truly scared of what Voltron will probably become. I'd also imagine that if Cameron EVER makes Gunnm, he's gotta get it right but... On the other hand... All fears and past failures aside... The one thing that's made my mind race with wonder and fantasy at what COULD be... Was a little flick from Speilberg a couple years ago... War of the Worlds? The scene where the first Tripod rises up from the ground slowly, blowing off steam, its engines audibly cranking up to full power... That was a moment to behold. The first true Mobile Suit on the big screen (based, of course, on the first Mobile Suit in Sci-Fi history). Oh, to see more big robots in a modern movie and looking that realistic... Oh, if only... [siiiiiiiiigh] I also wouldn't mind seeing Hollywood effects people render anime ships, movie style, like the Macross or the Arcadia...! *_*
Of course, not all anime adaptation need be built around special effects--I'd LOVE to see a big screen adaptation of Lupin, as opposed to Generic Casino Theft Movie 15. :p Get a nice European guy, four Japanese actors, let Monkey Punch help out with the script, comic/action GOLD!
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retty
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I don't mind the idea of Hollywood adaptations of anime and manga, so long as they quick a story that can easily be worked into a film...which they don't seem to have done so far. Instead they settle for taking something popular, and then handing it over to people who care little about making a good movie, and then you end up with something terrible like Dragonball (which I caught the first 5 minutes of on a plane, then decided I'd rather jump out of the plane than watch any more).
Cowboy bebop might not be so terrible in the right hands, but that's clearly not happened (Keanu Reeves? Seriously, wtf?). Unless Hollywood starts to take its source material much more seriously, I don't think we'll ever get a good adaptation. |
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