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EireformContinent
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It's natural that after one great series fans as one vampire can just say "MORE!"
One more story, one more arc- sequels are much more "safe" for producers than completely new series- they don't even need aggressive ads, fans will find them. Unfortunately, often after watching such a series I have an impression that someone thinks that I would be glad of anything with old logo- no matter how quality is it. It's sometimes obvious that author didn't have an idea for new adventures. There is very rare case that sequel is better than first series- I think about Banner of The Stars, Sailor Moon S and (as far) Dragon Ball Kai, but they are not typical sequels-like Aria or Marimite short series was caused by the lack of the original story. I like alternative stories like Capitan Harlock's and Gundam's universe. There is another category that always makes me laugh -possibly continuations- MKR 3, Dragon Ball AF, Inuyasha OVA, Oban Star Racers 2, recently Code Geass 3. Nearly every year appears "new, original, Japanese trailers", "confirmed" informations, nad fans sure that this time they will be released. The last season of Slayers showed us that's no need to reanimate too old corpse. What is strange prequels (except Legend of the Galactic Heroes Gaidens) are pretty rare. Do you always looking forward for continuation of your favourite anime? Are there sequels that shouldn't be created? Which series deserves for next season or, at least OVA? 
What do you think about hem at all? |
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LuckySeven
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In my opinion, I think its the nature of anime that causes this. With the exception of a few certain shows, they never last that long. Compare it to any other form of televised entertainment and you see how much it lacks in longevity. Cowboy Bebop, which is largely considered one of the all-time best anime series was only 26 TV episodes and a single feature film. Then we look at Batman: The Animated Series, largely considered one of the all-time best American animated series, which ran for 85 episodes and 2 films. Basically, I think that explains it right there. In a sense you don't get to spend enough time with the characters involved in anime. The really good ones just come and go so quickly that of course people are going to want and hope for one more story.
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Sima Yi
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I almost never appreciate prequels (anime or not), but sequels and remakes can be really good if done for the right reasons. An example of doing a remake for the right reasons would be Hellsing Ultimate. The original Hellsing series wasn't as faithful to the source material as it could have been and arguably had a weak ending. The Ultimate OVAs really did the licence some justice.
An example of doing something for the wrong reasons would be Gundam SEED Destiny. "Hey Gundam SEED was pretty popular. Oh, I know, let's force an unnecessary sequel with no direction to squeeze and extra dollar out of the name! Decent plot? Who needs that when we have stock footage!" |
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zawa113
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In anime:
Remakes, but only if the original didn't live up to, say, the original manga. I'm talking about 6 episode OVAs here like Please Save My Earth, which is 21 volumes long and would make an awesome anime if they didn't try to shove about the first 6-7 volumes into 6 very good, but rather lacking by comparison episodes. But then if it's a complete series, something like any of the part of Robotech, I wouldn't want a remake of them. Sure, they're outdated, but they're also completed and awesome, a remake would just be a waste of time and effort, the original is still perfectly fine. In games though, I only like remakes if they help people rediscover something they missed the first time around, like Klonoa for the Wii (originally a PS1 game). But really, Final Fantasy 1 and 2 have been remade at least twice, seems unnecessary. Basically overall, I don't like unnecessary remakes. Astro Boy 2003 might be considered a remake of the 1980 series, and while they had the same main characters, the shows were completely different (and 2003 was partly a celebration of Astro, since it first aired on his fictional birthdate of April 7, 2003. That's the only remake series I've seen, but it didn't copy any part of the previous bit by bit really either. For sequels: generally a big no from me. I don't mind a break in the show in the middle or it being divided into seasons, but if the first attempt at it ended nicely, wrapped things up and whatnot, what's the point of bringing out another? Well, clearly the answer is money or in the case of a bad show, attention as well, but I can't even recall a sequel that I've ever seen in the form of another series (a few movies, yeah). A movie sequel is fine usually, or a continuation of the series from where it left off after a long hiatus, but I'm not entirely all for sequels that aren't movies unless the show was beyond awesome. And even then, I loved Princess Tutu and Gurren Lagann, but I wouldn't want a sequel to either of them in the form of a whole new series. Not to say that there aren't show I just plain want brought back, like Firefly or Invader Zim, but that's not quite the same thing. In games I'm usually ok with sequels as long as 1) I think the first game deserves one and 2) the sequel isn't total garbage. But then just with anime and videogames, sequels can be effective thwarters at preventing something new. Double Fine could either work on a Psychonauts 2, despite the first one ending well (an having rather poor sales) and getting awesome reviews, or he could be making Brütal Legend, a brand new game that is clearly going to go somewhere Psychonauts hadn't. As much as I love Psychonauts and Princess Tutu, I know when it's time to leave them and work on something new. So I'm mostly against sequels for them preventing new things. Movie sequels are yes, satisfies fans without distracting the companies so long they can't make something new, but series sequels, generally no. Prequels: oddly enough, I'm all for them. For me, they make the story interesting by being somewhat out of order and we get to spend more time with the characters as they were before the series started instead of how they were at the end, which by that point would be kinda mundane and boring. As long as the series has a feasible reason to warrant a prequel, even if it's just a short movie, count me in. |
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Maidenoftheredhand
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It depends:
If a sequel is just because the fans want more of a favorite series even if it already had a perfectly fine ending than I am against this. I would rather be left wanting more then to keep getting more until I am sick of it. Princess Tutu is an example of a series that I do not think needs a sequel. It is perfect the way it was. However if there is a sequel because there is more of the source material (manga/novels) than I am perfectly fine with this type of sequel. An example of this is the new Haruhi Suzumiya episodes. As for remakes well if the remake is made to be closer to the source material (in the case of FMA:Brotherhood & Hellsing) than I am perfectly fine with this. However I tend to dislike remakes when they are just made to give an alternative version of something. I guess an example is turning a series into a movie such as the Escaflowne TV series- and the Escaflowne movie. Last edited by Maidenoftheredhand on Sun May 31, 2009 5:17 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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the Rancorous
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Like others have said; it depends on the series in question. For instance, some of my favorites include Last Exile, Elfen Lied, Vandread, Noir, Samurai 7, and Evangelion. I do not feel that any of these need a sequel. They all ended their stories and character journeys quite nicely and trying to advance their stories any further would just be anti-climatic to the point of being uninteresting (sorry LuckySeven, I really don't see how Vandread could have needed more). Sequels I've seen that are good: My-Otome Zwei: Plays off of the main story, but goes in a new and rather exciting way. Its what a sequel to My-Otome should have been. Banner of the Stars: mainly because of the character advancement from Crest of the Stars. Armitage Dual Matrix: not the strongest work, but it was still a solid sequel that did the first series justice enough. the Tenchi Muyo movies: All three of them, brought some new life and characters to Universe. Examples of shows I like that could easily have a sequel: Outlaw Star: Its story was concluded, but they could have easily continued with another adventure with the same cast. There were a number of things going on in that universe that the Outlaw Star crew could have gotten wrapped up in. At the very least, it would have been better than that awful spin-off Angel Links... Koihime Musou: There were other tales of other characters that they could explore and expand. Burst Angel: The story was resolved, but it was still a cliffhanger. There was plan for a sequel, but I guess it got canned. Full Metal Panic: The Second Raid: I believe there is going to be more, and this is the one that I am most anticipating out of all the anime out there. Last edited by the Rancorous on Sun May 31, 2009 7:34 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Zin5ki
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The Armitage film was certainly an improvement on the original as regards pacing and script, but I'd like to see another plotline for Naomi and Ross more akin to the original. For all its less favoured moments (viz. ones involving Armitage's brother), the original made for addictive cyberpunk. As for Crest/Banner of the Stars, I prefer the former. It did become a little odd in the last episode -spoiler[I have the talking horse in mind]- but it also had an astounding battle in episode five. Banner spent most of its running time trying to match such stoic heroism, and resultantly Jinto and Lafiel's relationship never quite managed to take centre stage. Banner's last episode was better than its counterpart from Crest, but the series as a whole achieved less. |
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Bluebeard
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Originally coming from a background as a Horror fan before I started watching anime, my instinct is to hate any and all remakes. Looking past the rare 13 Ghosts or Dawn of the Dead, the majority of Horror remakes are simply unnecessary, bad, or both- and are built solely to sell themselves on a cast of famous actors as opposed to the actual quality of the movie itself.
That said, anime seems to do a decent job of remaking a series only when necessary. (Or at least make considerably less remakes than we see in American theaters these days). Kanon 2006 was a brilliantly executed remake that not only improved the artwork but doubled the amount of episodes in the original series to flesh out the story more. I'm slightly more skeptical about the FMA Brotherhood remake since I haven't seen it yet, but the idea to remake it closer to the manga is admirable. But it's such a popular series it would be just as easy to do a poor job of it and sell it anyway knowing people will surely buy it. I'll have to watch it before I can make a final decision on it. |
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Sophisticat
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If a franchise is particularly good, then extra episodes are always welcome, so long as they're good and make sense.
Nothing worse than having a following prequel/sequel destroy the magic of the first series. |
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Kruszer
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Usually, but not always. If the first series left loose ends or had a rich universe I wanted to explore more, than yes. If the series is essentially "done" and they're making "more" just because the first series made money and they're looking to get more out of fans, then I'm usually somewhat apathetic towards it. I'm not really one to dismiss something outright before having seen some of it though.
Oh, yes definitely. There are certainly some pretty pointless sequels out there, the Sakura Taisen/Wars franchise for one example. Although the most pointless of all is usually the remake unless there was some extremely pressing reason behind remaking it like if the first series deviated drastically from the manga. This would then make the remake somewhat new or fresh instead of old potatoes. I also tend to dislike most prequels simply because they usually just aren't as interesting as their predecessors.
Way too many, I can tell you that. Far too many to list without this post turning into a list. Seriously, I could probabally list close to a hundred series that I felt left loose ends, just plain didn't end, or were otherwise unsatisfactory. |
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Mistypearl
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Would Read or Die and the Read or Dream (R.O.D. -The TV-) count in the sequel, prequel, remake category?
If they do in one way or another, I throughly enjoyed both together and seperately (I only watched Read or Die AFTER R.O.D.  ) But I feel that if has some crossovers, and the story still needs to be completed, they will be enjoyable. However, if its filler and just more fluff made in the series name, it's treading a thin line.
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EireformContinent
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Haven't seen it but it seems interesting- added to the list:)
A bit like Glass Mask- extended remake:P |
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fighterholic
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I don't think I've seen too much that has had to do with sequels, but I know that I enjoyed SAC: 2nd GIG alot. It had me hooked on watching as many episodes in a day as I possibly could watch just the first show, where I would be trying to fit so many episodes into my evening.
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ikillchicken
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-Do you always looking forward for continuation of your favourite anime?
Of course. Sequels are not always good or appropriate but if they do decide to make one, then I'm certainly going to hope for the best and look forward to it. -Are there sequels that shouldn't be created? Yes. Some anime conclude things effectively and don't leave room for much of a follow up. That said, there are plenty of cases where there is material left to explore. -Which series deserves for next season or, at least OVA? Lets see... Blood: The Last Vampire (movie). This is such an awesome movie. It's also massively incomplete. It just sort of ends without really explaining anything. I'd really love to see another movie (probably a little longer than the first that actually gets into the story). Berserk (TV) pretty much goes without saying. At this point though they could make at least two more seasons just of the existing manga which shows no signs of ending. I'll hesitantly say Cowboy Bebop. Probably not a whole other season but just another movie or two set mid series. I think that would work fine. Also, Ghost in the Shell: SAC because why the hell not? The first two seasons were awesome and there isn't anything to prevent them from making a 3rd as long as the creators can come up with a new central concept Samurai Champloo. Again because why not? It was totally episodic and doesn't even have the non-continuable problem Cowboy Bebop has. |
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EireformContinent
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Like 12 Kingdoms and Inuyasha. Until live fans there's a hope, but I don't think that any of these series have a chance for sequel after so long time |
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