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belvadeer





PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:27 pm Reply with quote
MacGuffin needs to be banned from the English language. I despise that word. On the other hand, Nina thinking of McMuffins is win. Monster's cool too. Anime hyper
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Sakurazuka_Reika



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:46 pm Reply with quote
I love this story arc haha, and this world especially :3

Looking forward to more! Anime smile
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malvarez1



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:17 pm Reply with quote
The Love Machine was awesome in Summer Wars. Nina and co. are doomed.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:26 pm Reply with quote
It's (relatively) a large Pokemon reference being mixed into a bunch of references to other series, with that Nina charm added in.

I LOVE IT.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:41 pm Reply with quote
I'm no expert, but I wouldn't it be Plot Coupon? I mean, MacGuffins are supposed to be irrelevant to the plot of the story, and if the pieces transport the gang around, well then, they aren't really irrelevant. Although I suppose you could call it a dismantled MacGuffin too...

//Totally not a Deus ex Machina, you call tell those apart because they always have a little Greek guy in a mask.
///Somebody send help, because I'm trapped on TV Tropes now.
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Dessa



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:18 pm Reply with quote
I think it would and wouldn't be a MacGuffin. It's a MacGuffin for the world they're in, but not for their own overarching plot.

*thinks*

Am I done with the Quest for the Holy MacGuffin on KoL? I think so, since both my accounts are onto the War...
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Tamaria



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:16 am Reply with quote
Melanchthon wrote:


//Totally not a Deus ex Machina, you call tell those apart because they always have a little Greek guy in a mask.


Would it have been a Deus ex Machina if it had been a Xenogears figure?
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Bob from Accounting



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:12 am Reply with quote
Melanchthon wrote:
I'm no expert, but I wouldn't it be Plot Coupon? I mean, MacGuffins are supposed to be irrelevant to the plot of the story, and if the pieces transport the gang around, well then, they aren't really irrelevant. Although I suppose you could call it a dismantled MacGuffin too...

//Totally not a Deus ex Machina, you call tell those apart because they always have a little Greek guy in a mask.
///Somebody send help, because I'm trapped on TV Tropes now.


No no no. A MacGuffin isn't something that's irrelevant. It's a thing that exists solely to drive the narrative forward and could be easily replaced with any number of other things without any effect on the story whatsoever.
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writerpatrick



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:39 am Reply with quote
There's a lot of debate on exactly what a macguffin is. Generally it's an object that drives the plot forward but could be replaced with anything. In this case they could just as easily be looking for pearls from a pearl necklace or feathers. So the model pieces do act as a macguffin.

Plot coupons are multiple macguffins, so it depends upon whether it's the parts of the model or the whole model itself that is the macguffin.

The model would be considered a quest-object. The pieces could also be considered tokens or collectables, which are common in fantasy stories.

A deus ex machina is where something happens to suddenly fix a problem or situation. Like a lightening bolt suddenly coming down and killing the villain. Or a person suddenly showing an ability they never had before. For example, being able to turn back time by flying around the world in reverse.
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Coderjoe



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:52 am Reply with quote
writerpatrick wrote:
A deus ex machina is where something happens to suddenly fix a problem or situation. Like a lightening bolt suddenly coming down and killing the villain. Or a person suddenly showing an ability they never had before. For example, being able to turn back time by flying around the world in reverse.

Or a person suddenly being able to mentally control stuff in the real world, outside the computer-generated facsimile, just in time to stop some deadly robots from destroying him and his companions.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:00 am Reply with quote
Coderjoe wrote:
writerpatrick wrote:
A deus ex machina is where something happens to suddenly fix a problem or situation. Like a lightening bolt suddenly coming down and killing the villain. Or a person suddenly showing an ability they never had before. For example, being able to turn back time by flying around the world in reverse.

Or a person suddenly being able to mentally control stuff in the real world, outside the computer-generated facsimile, just in time to stop some deadly robots from destroying him and his companions.


I think your referring to a Mary Sue.
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