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khaliph410
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Ok, so I'm posting this to get the word out and your opinion. Funimation has acquired the rights to Soul Eater. Their plan is the have and English dubbed version of the show. However, because of this they claim the rights to all currently subbed versions of the show that hardworking fans have released: 41 out of 50 episodes. Now I've been watching soul eater from the beginning and the people responsible for the subbing, SEF, have done a great job. Now funimation has gone into legal action to prevent them from subbing and providing RAW and subbed links.
Here is Funimation's statement to SEF: FUNimation has acquired the rights for Soul Eater. This includes the English dub and the English subtitled versions as well as the RAW version available for viewing in our multiple licensed territories/countries. We also have an authorization agreement with Media Factory for worldwide enforcement of their copyright regarding unauthorized use of Soul Eater. What this means is that if Media Factory didn’t give you permission to fansub or distribute, then I regret to inform you that you are violating their copyright. I know that everyone going to *link removed* are huge fans of the show. We will have English subtitled and English dub episode to view online, but not at this time. Please be patient. My own personal feelings on this matter is obvious. Funimation has made a dick move. I understand that they bought rights but they cannot claim rights to someone else's work. Funimation should go through the trouble of subbing the show itself. And on another note their dubs suck. The show that's meant for young adults Funimation is now gearing it towards kids. Anyone who's watched the subbed version and have seen the trailer made by funimation (on youtube) would agree. Also Funimation plans to charge viewers to see the show once they start posting in a few months. This again is unfair. I, personally, am pissed at Funimation. So, I'm writing this post to get everyone's view on this matter. If you want to know more information you can go to SEF's website *link removed* They also have a petition that you may sign if u see fit. Thanks for listening. 
[EDIT: No linking to fansub websites. Fixed some grammar & spelling issues. Also removed the "please read" from the title, as it's redundant -- pretty much all threads are created with the implicit request that people read them.~Zalis] Not really concerned with grammer. Just talking, not writing an essay Last edited by khaliph410 on Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:49 pm; edited 4 times in total |
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Mistypearl
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Pardon my french, but what the hell? Someone else's work? For one part, it is the company's in Japan's work, not some subbing team. You yourself says they took legal action to get rid of the subs. Subs themselves are not legal. So of course they would take legal action. Secondly, they WILL have it subbed. Have you even bought any of their DVDS? It comes out in a dub AND subtitled version by THEMSELVES. Also, the trailer was made hastily and by no means reflects on what the show will be like. I've seen HORRIBLE trailers for outstanding shows/movies. And how do you know it will be geared for kids? No one ever said that your just making an assumption.
Sure subbing teams worked hard to sub it, but you should be glad you could watch the show even before it was liscensed. If you like the show so much then be glad it was liscensed for our own enjoyment, it's going (don't see the reason why not to have a sub track) to be subtitled. Complaining that the hard work done by people (who don't have rights to the show in the first place) is being 'stolen' or what have you is being ridiculous. Sorry to be so blunt, but there are so many wrong accusations and statements your making, that I just had to say what was on my mind. Also, the whole Soul Eater getting licensed thing is pretty old, but whatever. |
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Mushi-Man
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1.Funimation has every legal and moral right to ask them to stop subing their product. This is how business works, they want to protect their products so that they can make money.
2.They aren't claiming rights to SEF's work. Their claiming rights to Soul Eater. SEF doesn't own Soul Eater, Funimation does. And Funimation isn't going to use their subs, (to my knowledge) they make their own. 3. I haven't watched Soul Eater yet, but I have seen the Funimation trailer. Saying that their trying to turn it into a product for kids is like saying that Full Metal Alchemist is kid friendly. |
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JacobC
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^ On point #3, no, not really. One of the ways you can tell this guy's a noob is that he even SAYS the show is for "young adults." Pssssh! It may be geared that way when it's released here, but after seeing twenty episodes or so of it, I can tell you for sure it was geared at children in Japan. Tweens maybe, if you wish to point out all the smexual content. It's not "adult" just cause there's violence and melodrama in it, peeps. Naruto's not for "young adults" either.
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khaliph410
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I don't want you all to misunderstand me. I'm not making any accusations. Those were just my own feelings towards the whole situation. I Understand that the show isn't there work but the subbing is. My concern is that Funimation will ruin the show because they have done this in the past to others. Why not just let them finish what they been doing such a great job with in the first place. Money isnt everything. But thats a whole different discussion in itself.
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Mushi-Man
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Good point, I'm just judging this off of the trailer so I don;t have a good grasp on the series. It just came off to me like it was Full Metal Alchemist. And it was made by Bones, so I just assumed that it was a little more mature then Naruto. |
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Mistypearl
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This is where I got confused, usually Funimation is pretty spot on with the translating, plus I'm sure it will be more consistent at authentic than an amateur's subbing job, so assuming the dvds will have a subtitled track, then even if the dub is hack job (which it probably won't be, but I could be wrong) you can just watch the subtitled version. Though I assume the idea that you have to pay to watch it is the problem. But, if you do like it alot, why not just buy it? Even with shows in the US on television many people buy so they can watch it as they will. If they let the subbing teams finish subbing it, then its just letting someone sub what is now their product ( for the most part) illegally, and that just doesn't fly that well. It's also an incentive to buy the dvds. In order to support the industry I guess. |
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farruinn
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Oh really?
If you say so.
Are you trying to suggest that the fansub group somehow has copyright ownership of the subs?! That's not how copyright works. If the fansub group truly wants to support the show then they will comply with the request, which Funimation has every right to make. I watch fansubs too, but when I like a show as much as you apparently like this one, then of course I'm going to buy it.
I suggest you write a letter to Funi to get their opinion on that. |
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Primus
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The only show they've ever ruined was DragonBall Z, with a less-then-mediocre dub, craptacular releases (The whole show has yet to be released Uncut in Fullscreen), etc. DragonBall Z was their second anime license, and thrived durring a time that anime had to be syndicated. It's not like they're Viz, you'll see an entire release for this show Uncut and Bi-Lingual.
Why not let them continue? I don't know maybe because it's agaisnt the law for them to continue? FUNimation isn't holding SEF by gun-point. SEF could release more, just that they'd likely get a lawsuit from Media Factory in Japan, and FUNimation. Unless you understand Japanese how to do know they're doing a great job? They could be AnimeLabs quality Fansubs and you'd not know it was totally, horribly, wrong. If you do understand Japanese, why not just watch the Raws, or import the DVDs, or import the manga... Oh wait, money... Also, if I'm great at doing something, I usually like getting paid for it. Unless it's the act of fornication, I do that for free to those special ladies.
If you're running a business, and are not trying to go bankrupt, MONEY IS EVERYTHING. Therefore, if you want to protect your money, you're entitled to do whatever you can within the confines of the law. Sending Cease and Desist letter to fansubbers is one thing. |
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Mushi-Man
Posts: 1537 Location: KCMO |
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I think that Funimation does a good job with their shows and i doubt Soul Eater will be any different. Unless your one of those people who think that all dubs are bad. And in reality SEF should feel lucky that Funimation isn't taking them to court (I'm pretty sure the law is on Funimation's side). And finally, I think that the better question is "Why should Funimation let them keep subing their product?" Don;t get me wrong, I watch fansubs and I enjoy them, but you shouldn't get so upset when stuff like this happens. It's all for the progression of the industry (I assume). |
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Zalis116
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braves
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On top of the points that everybody else has made, that trailer wasn't made by FUNimation. It was by the Japanese company, whatever their name is.
WHAT?! You'll have to pay to watch something?!! That's like...capitalism in action! 
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khaliph410
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They have complied. Another underground group is continuing it. Are you trying to say that when you write something anybody can take your work?.. Yes, Soul Eater is not their show but funimationa can't claim their subs, their translations; which they did. Don't believe me? visit there site for details. Instead of cutting them off funimation should work together with SEF since they have made good quality subs. Yes its a business, i understand that. However, most fansubs, not all, do a better job than companies like funimation. As far as money goes... i said thats a completely different topic. I dont want to get into an argument dealing with money or capitalism. Those are ethically controversial subjects. |
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Mushi-Man
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Where in that letter from Funimation does it say that they would be using SEF fansubs? It doesn't. I checked the website and , once again, it said nothing to the effect that Funimation would be using their fansubs. Funimation creates their own subs and dubs. Both at, usually, pretty good quality (at least that's my opinion). It seems more like your getting worked up over nothing, or maybe you just like to bash Funimation for whatever reason. |
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braves
Posts: 2309 Location: Puerto Rico (but living in Texas) |
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You really expect us to believe that FUNimation stole some kids' translations off of the internet when they have highly competent translators at their service? 
Translation: I prefer my anime served on a free plate, by any means necessary. spoiler[Personally, I can't wait on until it comes out on Blu-ray. It'll be sick.] |
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