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but the random episodes/movies I saw all seemed to be at tournaments of some sort or bland-looking Greek god places (maybe Mount Olympus... I've never cared enough to check).

Oh yeah, sure. He's stupid because he doesn't think like you.

It's called opinion, dude. Deal with it.

Now as far as I'm concerned, I am not a Saint Seiya fan. Never seen it, so I can't and won't comment on its quality. However, I will say that it's a bit far-fetched to expect someone to keep watching a show they dislike just to get to the "good part." If you don't like a series after the first few episodes, why must you continue to fork over cash for future volumes to get to the "good stuff" that happens around episode 60 or so? That's an unrealistic expectation, at best.

So...does the very similiar bad review from Anime on DVD piss you off also? Or do you just like picking on Zac?

(http://www.animeondvd.com/reviews2/disc_reviews/2447.php is the review from AoD.)

So...does the very similiar bad review from Anime on DVD piss you off also? Or do you just like picking on Zac?

Cassandra wrote:

So...does the very similiar bad review from Anime on DVD piss you off also? Or do you just like picking on Zac?

But, on to the link you posted, how is that a bad review? Hell, I remember when I first saw it, I thought "Wow, that was pretty fair, all in all." At least he doesn't go on to make judgements about the rest of the series based on what he's seen and claiming to have looked into it more, even if the beginning has left him underwelmed. The only reason someone would get angry over a review like the one on Anime on DVD is if they can't take any valid criticism of StS or realize that the first few episodes are slow moving. The fact that nobody here seems that upset about the AoD review seems to bear this out.

Everyone has their Saint Seiya Underoos in a twist over this line:

"Based on these first five episodes (and after hunting around for plot synopses of the rest of the series), the entire show is one long tournament battle. Most other series try and work in long plot segments that don’t include fighting inside a ring, in order to break up the monotony of tournament-style storytelling."

I did read a detailed plot synopsis of the rest of the series and you know something, it was mostly combat done in a tournament-style setting. It doesn't have to be a 'tournament', literally, to be a tournament-style setting. The Kenshin Kyoto arc is set up 'tournament style', where Kenshin fights one enemy after another, gaining in power and strength, until he takes on the bad guy and reaches his goal. Naruto does this, Hunter x Hunter does this.. there's a reason all of these series are called 'tournament' shows, even if they aren't literally taking place inside a tournament. Deny it until you're blue in the face, but Saint Seiya is mostly 'tournament' fighting. You said so yourself that it's mostly combat. That proves my point. The fact that other people on this fourm are saying "I've seen many snippets from different points in the show and they always seem to be fighting tournament-style for one thing or another" PROVES MY POINT. Yeesh.

I should have removed the "inside a ring" part from that sentence there, it would have made my point clearer. Fighting fighting fighting, regardless of where it's at or what it's over = lazily scripted show designed to appeal to 6 year old boys. Simple as that. Saint Seiya had the added problem of having uninteresting characters and an incredibly trite plot.

The problem with what a lot of you are saying is that apparently the show 'gets good' around episode.. what, 50? So over HALF of this series is bad, is what you're saying. That doesn't make it a good show, that means you watched so much of it that eventually, you started liking it. This happens a lot. Normally when someone tells you "Oh, this 200 episode show gets good around episode 97, don't judge it based on the first 4 episodes!", what you mean is, don't judge this series based on the first 97 episodes, which is TOTALLY RIDICULOUS. That's like saying that this movie is really great if you don't judge it based on the first hour. If the first hour is bad, guess what, folks, you have a bad movie with a decent ending. Saint Seiya was unbearable to me. I wanted to give it all F's, because that's what it deserved. For those of you who are diehard Seiya fans who are once again complaining that somehow my review is worse than all of the others because I tell people what to expect rather than giving some middle-of-the-road, neutral review that won't offend your oh-so-sensitive sensibilities, you do not understand what a review is. A review is an educated opinion based on technical and subjective factors that are all explained in the review. I think the character designs are ugly and terrible. Why? They have hideous poorly-drawn faces and they all have the same haircut. Guess what? That's an opinion backed up by evidence, therefore, it's valid to put in a review.

You people like to make up a new definition of what a "good review" is every time one pops up that you don't agree with. I get slammed on this forum nearly every time I write a bad review for something that's popular, and instead of just admitting that you disagree with the review, you sit here and slam my writing abilities and criticize the site and say the review should be taken down and all this other idiotic reactionary bullcrap. I KNOW how to write a review. Yes, the statement above should be phrased slightly differently, but I stand by what I said proudly. Saint Seiya sucks, I said it sucked, I pointed out WHY it sucked using evidence collected FROM the show, and therefore, the review is valid. So just own up to it, admit that you're whining because you disagree with the review, and kindly back away. I don't pull my punches, I don't write reviews just to make fans happy, and I DON'T compromise my opinion just so other people won't be offended. I thought Saint Seiya blew harder than the Lincoln Tunnel in a hurricane. DEAL WITH IT.

It's a bad review because they gave the content a C+, where Zac gave it a D. That means the AoD reviewer liked it slightly more than Zac did. That's pretty much saying the first DVD is pretty mediocre, if not straight out bad.