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The Seventh Son
Joined: 27 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:23 pm
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fansubs are the things that help anime launch popularity in the US. otherwise many series wouldnt have even gotten as popular as they are. plus the progression of anime in the US wouldnt have gotten nearly as far as it has. it helps fandom spread outside of japan instead of waiting for licensers to just pick random stuff. the japanese recongnize that, and arent nearly as concerned as us when it comes to copywriting issues in anime, thankfully. but many knew that google purchasing youtube would turn into another incident like Napster.
God bless fansubs, for without them anime outside of Japan would have never reached this level.
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Abarenbo Shogun
Joined: 19 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:12 pm
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| The Seventh Son wrote: | | fansubs are the things that help anime launch popularity in the US. otherwise many series wouldnt have even gotten as popular as they are. plus the progression of anime in the US wouldnt have gotten nearly as far as it has. it helps fandom spread outside of japan instead of waiting for licensers to just pick random stuff. the japanese recongnize that, and arent nearly as concerned as us when it comes to copywriting issues in anime, thankfully. but many knew that google purchasing youtube would turn into another incident like Napster.
God bless fansubs, for without them anime outside of Japan would have never reached this level. |
Debateable at best. It's like saying Tuning cars came about because of the "Fast and Furious" movies.
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TWXM
Joined: 27 Dec 2006
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:44 pm
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| Abarenbo Shogun wrote: | |
If they had an option where users can just "This clip might be copyright infringement, please look" that coudl help. But seeing that you need to be the license holder to have such power, it's a moot point. |
They used to have this but they removed it because it was being abused.
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Steroid
Joined: 08 Oct 2005
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Location: At home, where all good hikikomori should be
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:43 pm
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| haruhifan1200 wrote: | | So why is it just now that Japanese companies are going after fansubs and the like? It's been all over BitTorrent for years, and the Japanese (I believe) can get on there, too. So what's the reasoning behind going after YouTube, and not other places abundant with fansubs and have been around even loger than them?
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Youtube is a matter of point-and-click and you see the show in your browser. Bit Torrent involves knowing how to work the torrent program, having the patience and the computer time to download it, being able to wrangle with codecs and such, and may have to be done a whole series or not at all. And torrents are harder to track and eliminate. Which works out well for people who do have the knowledge and patience and still want to get anime over the internet.
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Joined: 14 Feb 2006
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Location: IN your nightmares
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:09 am
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| Kirkdawg wrote: | Yeah, I always can't help but smile when I read the little note fan subbers leave "Please stop distribuiting when this anime is licensed". Good luck with that  .I'm probably one of the worst when it comes to pirating anime, I must confess it. Although, it is a good point to note that the people who do make anime are in it for the money. If they stop getting the money they want, then the good shows they produce will also just randomly stop. Eh, I might convince myself someday to buy a few DVDs of some of my favorites...  |
You may not realize it but there are lots of people who do have respect for the creative forces that produce our anime and do abide by that "please stop distributing" rule. No one is enforcing it, no one is telling you can't download licensed anime yet unlike you many fans have the moral decency to respect and live by it. That's why I hate YouTube, it totally bypasses this sense of fansub etiquette and the shows are both uploaded and viewed indiscriminantly.
| Steroid wrote: | | Youtube is a matter of point-and-click and you see the show in your browser. Bit Torrent involves knowing how to work the torrent program, having the patience and the computer time to download it, being able to wrangle with codecs and such, and may have to be done a whole series or not at all. And torrents are harder to track and eliminate. Which works out well for people who do have the knowledge and patience and still want to get anime over the internet. |
I don't think the difference between the ease of getting anime via you tube and anime via torrents is very significant in the least. Many of the people who watch youtube programming also make and upload youtube programming and probably also make AMVs (I don't) so they are net capable enough to figure out and have the patience for torrents. It's more about each persons level of acceptability of YouTube content, yes it's lower quality but more user friendly but it's not without it's own disadvantages. I myself have never had the willingness to upload content on youtube but I know all about torrents, codecs, and the digital fansubbing process, I even use Linux as my primary operating system and it all works just like in Windows.
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HitokiriShadow
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:37 am
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| Quote: | | That's why I hate YouTube, it totally bypasses this sense of fansub etiquette and the shows are both uploaded and viewed indiscriminantly. |
Er, I hate to say it, but YouTube isn't the only way to circument the 'fansub etiquitte'. Which is rare these days, it seems. I can name two, maybe three groups that I know still do that. Even if the fansubbers take it off their tracker, someone else will have it and upload the whole series elsewhere (unless it wasn't finished, but there is usually someone else willing to sub even after licensing).
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