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NEWS: ADV Releases Gantz Details


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Godaistudios



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:42 pm Reply with quote
kusanagi-sama wrote:
Godaistudios wrote:
kusanagi-sama wrote:
Godaistudios wrote:
kusanagi-sama wrote:
Godaistudios wrote:
with the cost they are suggesting, I highly doubt I'll be buying it... since I didn't see it before it was licensed, looks like I'll be renting instead, which means the only people who get money out of it is whomever I'm renting it from.


No, even if you rent it from them, some of the money they used to buy the DVD to allow you to rent it went to the distributor (ADV in your case).


It's not that I don't understand that, but for each person who rents instead of purchasing, then each one could be considered a "sale" that ADV didn't get. It's just semantics.


Of course, the rental company has to pay 2 or 3 times the normal cost when purchasing.

Hmm... the comic book store where I often rent stuff from just uses a sale copy, so that's really not the case at all here... I don't know about the rest of the online companies, and I'm hardly an expert in that field, but my understanding of the current retail companies is that they no longer have to pay that much either. As far as the online renters? I don't have a clue how much they pay for their copies.


There is one particular movie made in 1984 that I want. It is called Electric Dreams, but it is available as a VHS rental, however, you can buy the VHS tape for it at what a renter would buy it, for $54. I've seen it on Amazon.com as VHS (where the $54 comes from) as well as eBay (mostly PAL VHS and some R0 DVD's), but I prefer to wait until it comes available on DVD eventually


Heh, I remember that movie quite vividly... "Moles" I wouldn't mind owning it myself.

Still, my understanding is that those prices are from an outdated system, and that current renting systems no longer require an arm and a leg to buy their product... unless the said item is out of print, which is where the basis for that $54 may come from.
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kusanagi-sama



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:55 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, that might be true... Amazon.com has a mailing list for that movie so that they can inform you when it is available on DVD.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:21 pm Reply with quote
i love my RK DVDs.... 4 or 5 eps per disk. Two episodes per disk is such a god damned ripoff. WTF ADV.... I would've bought this series on DVD because its so damn good, but not when you pull this crap.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:22 pm Reply with quote
rankothefiremage wrote:
if MSRP is 18$ that means that some stores will have it for less.

This is a very good point. If the MSRP is only $18, and Deep Discount DVD starts carrying this, it will be even cheaper.

I'm not sure on how exact this math is, but after looking at a few of ADV's products on DDD, it appears most of their merchandise carries about a 40% discount off the MSRP.

So with that in mind, if DDD continues this trend for Gantz, the price per DVD there should be around $10-11.

This is just speculation, though, so don't get your hopes up too high just yet. Anime smile + sweatdrop
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This is a very good point. If the MSRP is only $18, and Deep Discount DVD starts carrying this, it will be even cheaper.
And going prices on eBay and Half.com might be even less.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:29 pm Reply with quote
Technically, isn't 1 episode of Gantz (50 minutes) the length of 2 episode of a regular anime? So if you're buying 2 episodes per DVD, that would approximately be the length of 4 episodes per DVD. This means that the anime as a whole would have a length of 52 episodes, even though its only listed as 26 episodes, because the episodes are double the normal length. In effect, you'd be paying $18 for the equivalent of 4 episodes, which is not a bad deal. If you really wanted 4 Gantz-length episodes on one disc, that would be 8 normal episodes worth of material.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:38 pm Reply with quote
Necros Antiquor wrote:
Technically, isn't 1 episode of Gantz (50 minutes) the length of 2 episode of a regular anime? So if you're buying 2 episodes per DVD, that would approximately be the length of 4 episodes per DVD. This means that the anime as a whole would have a length of 52 episodes, even though its only listed as 26 episodes, because the episodes are double the normal length. In effect, you'd be paying $18 for the equivalent of 4 episodes, which is not a bad deal. If you really wanted 4 Gantz-length episodes on one disc, that would be 8 normal episodes worth of material.

The Encyclopedia says there's only 24 episodes (at 24 minutes a piece). And I haven't seen the series, so I don't know about the one 50 minute episode, but if there's only one episode that does this, it would make sense for maybe one DVD.

But if each episode is only 24 minutes, then it's still just two episodes a DVD.
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Hm.. OK. After looking at the MSRPs for Vol.1 (w/ and without the box), my prediction for DDD will be:

$16.79 for the DVD + box.

$10.79 for the DVD alone.

(Minus 40% off the MSRP. You can check any of ADV's stuff on Deep Discount DVD to help confirm my suspicions, but remember, I'm not saying they DO have Gantz, yet Wink).
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SakechanBD wrote:
I hope they don't decide to do this for all of their releases. It's been a long time since I've had to buy anime at 2 episodes a release, and I think it's a poor step. The pricing may even out in the end, but fans are more likely to pay more for more episodes, than less for less. For a 26 episode series, 13 is just ridiculous.


Not to mention the 2 month in between each released.
Bring on the manga instead.

Necros Antiquor wrote:
Technically, isn't 1 episode of Gantz (50 minutes) the length of 2 episode of a regular anime? So if you're buying 2 episodes per DVD, that would approximately be the length of 4 episodes per DVD. This means that the anime as a whole would have a length of 52 episodes, even though its only listed as 26 episodes, because the episodes are double the normal length. In effect, you'd be paying $18 for the equivalent of 4 episodes, which is not a bad deal. If you really wanted 4 Gantz-length episodes on one disc, that would be 8 normal episodes worth of material.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this.


Episode are 24min.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:34 am Reply with quote
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2 episode per disc? This is super lame.

Bring on the manga instead, at least you'll get the whole TV arc with like 4 or 5 volumes of manga.


Well, we better prod Tokyopop or DMP for that. I can't see the manga being released by ADV Manga's erratic schedule.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:21 am Reply with quote
darkhunter wrote:
Necros Antiquor wrote:
Technically, isn't 1 episode of Gantz (50 minutes) the length of 2 episode of a regular anime? So if you're buying 2 episodes per DVD, that would approximately be the length of 4 episodes per DVD. This means that the anime as a whole would have a length of 52 episodes, even though its only listed as 26 episodes, because the episodes are double the normal length. In effect, you'd be paying $18 for the equivalent of 4 episodes, which is not a bad deal. If you really wanted 4 Gantz-length episodes on one disc, that would be 8 normal episodes worth of material.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this.


Episode are 24min.

I read this on the main page, though:

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They've also confirmed the 50 minute / 2-episode running time reported earlier this month.

Would that only apply to the first DVD? Or does that mean that the DVD itself is only 50 minutes long, as opposed to each episode being 50 minutes long like I thought?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:52 am Reply with quote
If anyone who works for ADV reads this board, I have a suggestion to alleviate the problem. Find out if your rights to Gantz also include the tv edit of the show, sell that version on dvd first, and put more episodes of it on that dvd; but keep it barebones. Then release the home video version of Gantz later on, include whatever extras you originally intended for it, and call it the "Gantz: Special Edition", and slap a "too hot for Japanese tv" label on it. The fans get to see Gantz at a better price/episode ratio, and you get the opportunity to make more sales off the home video version of the series. Everyone wins. Problem solved.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:31 am Reply with quote
Necros Antiquor wrote:
darkhunter wrote:
Necros Antiquor wrote:
Technically, isn't 1 episode of Gantz (50 minutes) the length of 2 episode of a regular anime? So if you're buying 2 episodes per DVD, that would approximately be the length of 4 episodes per DVD. This means that the anime as a whole would have a length of 52 episodes, even though its only listed as 26 episodes, because the episodes are double the normal length. In effect, you'd be paying $18 for the equivalent of 4 episodes, which is not a bad deal. If you really wanted 4 Gantz-length episodes on one disc, that would be 8 normal episodes worth of material.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this.


Episode are 24min.

I read this on the main page, though:

Quote:
They've also confirmed the 50 minute / 2-episode running time reported earlier this month.

Would that only apply to the first DVD? Or does that mean that the DVD itself is only 50 minutes long, as opposed to each episode being 50 minutes long like I thought?


It means the DVD is 50 minutes long with those two episodes. There was never an episode that was 50 minutes long.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 7:31 am Reply with quote
Necros Antiquor wrote:
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They've also confirmed the 50 minute / 2-episode running time reported earlier this month.

Would that only apply to the first DVD? Or does that mean that the DVD itself is only 50 minutes long, as opposed to each episode being 50 minutes long like I thought?


You're reading it wrong. "/" is commonly used to substitue for the word "per". The way it's written says that it is a "50 minute per 2 episode running time" or 50 minutes between two episodes. If they ment the other way it would have read something like, "Two 50 minute episodes".

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