Forum - View topicNEWS: Netflix Produces Live-Action Cowboy Bebop Series
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Redbeard 101
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Zof, I have removed several of your posts from this thread. You need to stop with the off topic soapboxing and rude posts towards other users.
As for everyone else let's cool it with the nerd rage and pointless pessimism. Nobody says you have to think his will be good or that you need to be interested in it. Coming into the thread though to simply complain and nothing else adds nothing of value to the conversation. |
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Lord Oink
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GT was extremely popular in Japan, that's why. I'm not sure where this "GT ruined the franchise like Evolution did" is coming from, unless they're talking specifically American fans, but I'd blame the poor dub for that. |
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Spawn29
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Dragon Ball Evolution did nothing to do the franchise since it bombed at the box office and did terribly critically. It came and quickly become forgotten. GT on the other hand, ended with 64 episodes (compare to the long run that DB and DBZ had) and we didn't get anything new with Dragon Ball until Battle of Gods.
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Nom De Plume De Fanboy
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Myself, I hope they succeed. It would be like breaking a curse. And it would be fun to watch. It just faces a high bar to get over within the fandom because of the fandom's "this is part of me, don't mess with it" fears. Comic book movies have succeeded, so maybe this could too. Not replying to anyone in particular, just my two bits.
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Spoofer
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I wasn't the one who brought GT into the conversation, and after this I'll stop contributing to the derail (and this'll probably get deleted anyway), but... No, GT was not at all "extremely popular" in Japan. There are plenty of interviews with the Japanese creators stating how divisive or poorly received it was over there.
https://comicbook.com/anime/2017/12/02/dragon-ball-gt-united-states-reception
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/07/28/dragon-ball-raging-blast-2-producer-on-cross-cultural-dragon-ball-development/ (I find it funny he thinks it's popular here in comparison to Japan, which alone is pretty telling...)
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28890 I'm nowhere near fluent in Japanese, but I know enough to be able to navigate to Japan's Yahoo Answers and see that it's absolutely littered with people asking why GT was so unpopular / has such a bad reputation, and plenty of people stating the obvious reasons. And yeah, GT lasted a mere 64 episodes (in comparison to Drag On Ball and Z lasting for hundreds) and then we didn't see much at all from the franchise aside from games for a full decade. Even if GT wasn't the sole or primary cause of that drought, and not that shounen series don't eventually end, but it certainly left a tarnished reputation in regards to how the franchise initially went out. (Back on topic...) I don't think a potentially bad live-action Bebop would damage Bebop's legacy in the same way, as its an independent reinterpretation on the other side of the globe, and if it is bad hopefully it can be forgotten and dismissed as easily as Death Note and GitS (and Evolution) and such, but just saiyan. |
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Beatdigga
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I don’t think anyone wants the series to fail, it’s just that a lot of bad examples have led to pessimism. Netflix in particular, with their last in-house adaptation being Death Note, which was...contentious to say the least. |
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Spawn29
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It would be cool if they got Quentin Tarantino to help direct it, but I doubt it.
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Lord Oink
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That's odd because it averaged 31K a volume and appeared to be one of the better sellers of the 90s (even better than DB and DBZ oddly enough) Source: http://www.someanithing.com/312 |
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Cutiebunny
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This would become my new holiday classic, joining the ranks of such other classic disaster films such as "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians" and Netflix's "A Christmas Prince 2". |
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Spawn29
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I wonder if Keanu Reeves will get the play Spike this time? He is popular again thanks to John Wick.
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DCR
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He may not have a lot of experience with live action, but he worked as writer on several cartoons. Cowboy Bebop is one of those few anime that could really work if done by americans, so I will definitely give it a try. |
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OceanwaveIII
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Someone mentioned that they do this because of the animation ghetto. I mean honestly taking everything and making some crappy live action version of the cartoon keeps the ghetto in place , There Nothing Natural about the animation ghetto , it not something related to being biologically being adult it pure socialization and culture training . You have to be told " this is bad you shouldn't do this " , The idea that you can't enjoy stylized art based story is a weird kinda modern prejudice thing lol that for some strange reason people want to keep going even if it filled with more social inconsistency than swiss cheese. .
Not sure the point of live action you give someone who wouldn't of watched the animation a really bad version of a bad American movie , It bombs everyone from critics to fans to the general public hate them and it forgot ? does Hollywood enjoy losing money or something over these flops ? Guessing netflix want to go down the toilet next be my guess . I mean I understand Hollywood/netflix desperate to make money off the popularity of anime , but desperation obviously doesn't translate into success . But eh the reason these thing fails with exploiting comic book materials (that still American culture) you can pave over American culture , No one reads comics , With manga and anime The content may not be purely Japanese . but there all sort of things about how Entertainment is produced and expectations that are purely culture . Americans rarely notice it since it rare we watch anything outside of a Generic US English language programming . or anything with Subtitles.that you couldn't do understand the constraints of normal US TV and Hollywood , Maybe netflix will be different , but death note sucked ... so there off to a bad start. Series in Japan you know when they make the animation off the manga ? It actually attempts to follow the manga and that why it popular the better the animation quality and more faithfulness to the original the better the series is in Japan . That like the exact opposites of how things work with US cartoon or live action production . The original source material is just some Loose guide for the director to make whatever crap they want , since most Americans don't care about comics . US Comic book movies are successful because someone put actual effort and passion into them . while the original comic could of been complete garbage . The material also is based on generic US culture "Set in newyork "making it easy to pave over . That like the inverse with a popular manga or anime there popular because the original had alot of effort and passion put into it and that why it globally popular . |
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TdFern 87
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Hopefully it may not turn out to badly. But that's just optimism speaking.
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