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TsubomiKoneko



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:14 am Reply with quote
Magical Girl Raising Project is another anime to add to the list. I know the majority of the deaths were when they were transformed, but there was at least one that wasn't.

Most of the American movies that I can think of that had terrible things happen to children, or children die in any manner that wasn't completely offscreen (only symbolized by a funeral or something), were produced before the mid 1990s. So it kind of seems like a thing that changed standards wise in the past 20 or so years. I know there's probably still some recent ones here or there, but it was definitely more common to see in horror movies when I was younger.
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:40 am Reply with quote
A lot of people coming up with interesting examples, but Inuyashiki is one from literally just last season. And it's framed so lovingly, you'd think the creator was smiling the whole time. Who doesn't want to spend 2 minutes watching spoiler[a child drown under the weight of their recently murdered father in a bloody bathtub] though, right?

[Edit]: added spoiler tags. Errinundra


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TheAnimeRevolutionizer



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:43 am Reply with quote
Blink and you might miss it...

Take a look at the episode of Yu Yu Hakusho where spoiler[they look at Younger Toguro's backstory and how he came to be the monster he was today. The animators for Yu Yu Hakusho were some hellraisers, I'll give them that.]
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Dragonsandphoenix



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:58 am Reply with quote
Caster's introduction in Fate/Zero. It's off-screen but... you can still hear the screams and everything. Yeah I was watching that scene in the dark and I'll be honest I had never seen a scene like that involving a child so that messed me up a bit.

So that was the worst thing I've seen involving a human child until Made in Abyss came along. Like, oh God why.

In western media, I think the one that messed me up the most is in Game of Thrones involving the massacre of babies in season... 2 maybe? Yeah, babies is where I draw the line on that.
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unready



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:20 am Reply with quote
Just another example of anime child murders to add to the list:

You may not remember it, because it's not congruent with the romance impression that the show leaves after you've seen it, but ...

Angel Beats where Yuri flashes back to when she was a small child and spoiler[home invaders killed her 3 younger siblings.]

Granted that it happens off-screen and all you see is a lot of blood-splatter afterward.
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Angel Investor





PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:51 am Reply with quote
Another example that hasn't been brought up yet is Black Bullet. That series also has a lot of young kids getting killed. One particularly messed up scene is about spoiler[a whole classroom of orphaned elementary school girls getting murdered by terrorists.]
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:19 am Reply with quote
Jose Cruz wrote:
MarshalBanana wrote:
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I can only think of the ridiculous opening to the second episode of Genocyber,
And one of the most try hard, "please be sad and shocked", moments I've ever witnessed.


And awesome. Cool Love that scene, a modern classic in OVA history!

Here I found it on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvTBdVtZ0Jw

Awesome!
Well I get the entertaining part. I do wonder if you have a different definition of the term classic
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judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind.
"a classic novel"
or you have an incredibly low opinion of OVAs.
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Mhora





PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:40 am Reply with quote
Oh, wow. A very American question xD
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belvadeer





PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:23 pm Reply with quote
Mhora wrote:
Oh, wow. A very American question xD


How is it "a very American question" exactly?
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TheAnimeRevolutionizer



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:25 pm Reply with quote
Funny that I talk about Yu Yu Hakusho, and let this slip my mind. spoiler[Amanuma's death was actually one of the more moving, more softer, yet cleanly depicted deaths of a child I've ever seen. It was painful to see him get thrown into some serious mental derailing about how his powers would see him die if he up and lost the games he manifested. And damn did that send Kurama into a fit too.]
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Furuzaki



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 7:58 pm Reply with quote
Mhora wrote:
Oh, wow. A very American question xD


I submitted the question, and no I'm not american.
I thought my question was a bit anti-american since I said I'm annoyed about their movies never killing kids.

When They Cry is so brutal it makes Saw, Final Destination, Paranormal Activity etc movies look kind of silly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:43 pm Reply with quote
Blanchimont wrote:
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But kids very seldom get killed (or really really badly maimed) in any medium, and that includes anime.

Made in Abyss, Chaos;Child and Children of the Whales beg to differ about that 'seldom' part... Wink

So 3 examples compared to how many titles in a year? A small select few compared to dozens each year? Yea, that's still seldom.
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0nsen



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:47 am Reply with quote
Updated:

War related
  • 1983, Hadashi no Gen
  • 1988, Hotaru no Haka
  • 2016, Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni
  • 2014, Giovanni no Shima

Murder
  • 1994, Genocyber
  • 1997, Berserk (2014, too)
  • 1999, Digimon Adventure (Pumpkinmon & Gotsumon)
  • 2002, Naruto
  • 2003, Hagane no Renkinjutsushi (2009, too)
  • 2003, Narutaru
  • 2004, Elfen Lied
  • 2006, Black Lagoon
  • 2006, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
  • 2007, Bokurano
  • 2010, Angel Beats
  • 2011, Blood-C
  • 2012, Fate/Zero
  • 2012, Shinsekai yori
  • 2012, Inferno Cop
  • 2013, Corpse Party
  • 2014, Black Butler: Book of Circus
  • 2014, Black Bullet
  • 2016, Koutetsujou no Kabaneri
  • 2016, Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku

Natural death
  • 2003, Momoko, Kaeru no Uta ga Kikoeru yo.

Unknown (haven't seen or don't remember)
  • 1977, Muteki Choujin Zanbot 3
  • 1980, Densetsu Kyojin Ideon
  • 1992, Yu Yu Hakusho
  • 2000, Karakuri no Kimi
  • 2006, Utawarerumono
  • 2013, Gen'ei o Kakeru Taiyou
  • 2015, Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen
  • 2017, Made in Abyss
  • 2017, Chaos;Child
  • 2017, Kujira no Kora wa Sajou ni Utau
  • 2017, Inuyashiki
  • 2018, Devilman: Crybaby


Edit: updated again


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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:46 am Reply with quote
Add the Utawarerumono adaptations to the list as well, child deaths do happen in them, one especially gruesome scene in the second...

Also, Daybreak Illusion.
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relyat08



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:24 pm Reply with quote
Thanks for the list Onsen! Genuinely quite helpful. I guess it seems there are a good number of such cases within anime. This question definitely immediately made me think of Made in Abyss and Inuyashiki since those two are recent memories. Now that I think about it, Devilman Crybaby kind of does as well. spoiler[Poor Taro turns into a devil and then gets killed.]
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