Forum - View topicNEWS: Kishimoto: Naruto Invokes His Childhood, Breaks Shōnen Formula
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Lelouch Vi
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Beatdigga
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No, stuff collapsing before the end is a tried and true formula.
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Unclaimed Pants
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Naruto did not break any shounen formula, but it maybe did approach tropés in new ways. Either way breaking a shounen formula would probably mean that you've made a game changing approach in how you write an manga of that genre.
The trend of modern shounen was basically science fiction until Dragon Ball Z came around, and that's why, even to this day, for example of the 10 most popular shounen mangas in Japan today you'll find that at least 7/10 of them are all fantasy. Moreover, Dragon Ball Z revolutionized the shounen formula with it's story, which can be found in many shounen mangas today. It really was the first of its kind. Yu Yu Hakusho did also revolutionize the character of the villian and the antagonist. It brought psychological- and ethical complexities to these characters which had not been seen in DBZ. In DBZ you get very typical, very archetypical villains. You get people like Frieza who just want power and domination over the Galaxy/Universe, you get people like Boo whose hellbent on destruction, people like Cell who wanted to become the "perfect being". You don't get that in Yu Yu Hakusho. If we were to make a top 20 list of antagonist in manga ever, Sensui, without doubt would be top 5. To my mind, I've never seen an antagonist in shounen manga that approaches the sort of complexity of Sensui. With the advent of Yu Yu Hakusho, came the foundation of what the emphasis on characterization in shounen manga could reach making it the pioneer. So saying that Naruto changed the shounen formula is an overstatement with not much merit. |
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_Darkblondie_
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"The series' protagonist did not always resort to brute force to defeat his enemies. Kishimoto said. “And if (the protagonists) defeat them without understanding their motivation, it could end up leading to a repeat of the same thing.” "
he is right "talk no jutsu" was something different for shonen genre. I dont know why people giving examples from DBZ, YYH ...etc Kishimoto respects both series and inspired by them. But he did different things from them. Naruto is not like Goku who wanna fight with strong guys all time and Naruto villains are not like DBZ villains. They are more deep characters and they have their own reasons and ideals. |
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BadNewsBlues
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3 properties most of us yanks have never heard of or nowhere near as popular.
Incidentally all non major villians all of whom except Kakuzu Naruto never defeated. |
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mcbright80
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I have been on this site for a long time but never registered UNTIL TODAY....JUST so I can tell some of you hatin' people on here(who clearly can't read) a thing or two.
Kishimoto clearly said "Reflecting on his series' journey, Kishimoto thinks he broke new ground with the story's approach to conflict. The series' protagonist did not always resort to brute force to defeat his enemies." THATS IT!!!! Not that it broke ground on character design,story complexity, or any other area that you fools keep giving references on so shut up already. I have my issues with the overall manga in many, many ways as some of you do too but really if you are going to give reasons on why he is wrong then please for the love of gawd...KEEP ON THE SPECIFIC SUBJECT!!!! Anyone else who gives ANOTHER reference about how kishi is wrong and is not clearly on the SPECIFIC subject...again that would be how naruto didn't break grounds in CONFLICT and how he didn't ....ALWAYS...resort to brute force IN THE BEGINNING....is an idiot and should go back to school and learn how to read again. Jeezus! |
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leafy sea dragon
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I understand Yu Yu Hakusho has become more obscure, but surely it WAS popular at one time in the west, when it was on Toonami and was hot off the heels of DBZ...? |
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MaxSouth
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Every manga book of Naturo has 1.200.000 initial circulation, as always. No demise whatsoever.
More accurately, it is tactics, not strategy. |
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