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Yttrbio
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It's really all Nemurin's fault.
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Merida
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There wasn't much left of her, so it was hard to tell, but did Cranberry actually turn back into her human form after she was killed?
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getchman
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dont think so. her legs still had her magical girl outfit, which disappears immediately once they die |
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DuskyPredator
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I said this in the other thread, but I thought that I might bring it here. It seemed that the series might be criticising the making things that are inherently innocent into violent dark things just because those at the top are bored.
Also, I feel that Swim Swim may really be a clinical psychopath, a person born without empathy. |
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maximilianjenus
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well I promote swimswim culture and find it pretty nice who is the "main" villain to to speak, it reminds me of akira and how giving humans the power of gods can backfirre tremendously; in this case being more delicious by making the most "evil" magical the one character who is "the most girl" so to speak, feels like yet antoehr stab of the genre, since in the traditional magical girl series the girls have so many ways to just abuse their power but for plot reasons they won't do it.
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Hellsoldier
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Surely I will not compliment anything they've done in the game. But once told that 1) If you're last place you die, and that 2) if you give up you die, then only those with enough mental fortitute can handle that information. The more frail minds think: Unavoidably, somebody's dying, and it ain't me/us. Ruler's teaching don't help surely. I do have some questions regarding Ruler, since she did spend time teaching kanji to Tama. F.a.v. probably chose people by type, and that means he probably knew who was gonna crack in what is essentialy a warfare atmosphere of (in their minds) kill or be killed. The flashbacks sure seem to indicate most of them have very little interest in killing. Poor Sister Nana, your great intentions were ruined from the get-go. But hey, my analysis is not the only way of reading the situation. I apologize if I make too many war comparisons. Vietnam-themed movies are a favorite.
That would result in a kinda hipocritical state of existence, though I've seen some works like that. Swim Swim wouldn't have dropped a tear for killing Tama, nor feel remorse for killing Ruler were she a clinical psychopath. |
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DuskyPredator
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Yeah, it is kind of hypocritical, although hypocrisy can be a tool within it that can have a point, even if it could be overlooked. Kind of Like how Rambo was meant to be a criticism of the sort of violence it portrayed, yet became just an action movie series. But just look at the “villains” of the show, an overseer mascot who likely caused an accident to make things more interesting, and a little girl who has misunderstood lessons properly and become very dangerous. And looking a bit more, because Swim is under 18 she could only be diagnosed with Conduct Disorder. But she has a lot of the symptoms from a lack of empathy, low fear responses, a cold blooded aggression for violence, among others. People tend to think when they hear of psychopathy that you are calling someone pure evil, that it is the sort of person that gets off on inflicting violence on others. But psychopaths can be the perfect soldier to defend a country, they could be the most likely to ignore normal fear and run into a burning building to save a child, they can be good leaders who will do anything to get the result, or a lawyer that could defend someone while ignoring bias to get them the defence they deserve. Yeah it might seem off to those with higher empathy, but it does not necessarily make them “evil”. |
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JacobC
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I stg nobody reads bylines when they're right there in plain sight. Paul is the reviewer for MGRP, not James. |
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Luke's Yu-Gi-Oh! Channel
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I was a little surprised by this episode, I thought that Cranberry would kill SwimSwim.
After thinking about it for a bit, having Swimswim as the possible final battle does make a bit of sense seeing as how she has killed the most magical girls. I was about to say people but just remembered the carnage Calamity Mary did. |
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killjoy_the
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Don't you be a Swim Swim apologist too, Jake 
Sorry for the mistake, Paul |
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Polycell
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TarsTarkas
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This episode further cements how evil Swim Swim is. Being young doesn't excuse you from being evil.
This ceased being a game a long time ago. As a Magical Girl, Ripple is fully justified in putting down Swim Swim. There will be no dark mark on Ripple. Swim Swim needs to die, and deserves a Magical Girl to kill her. Since (F'av) killed Nemurin and Ruler, and since (F'av) and Cranberry were making up the rules as they went along, one wonders if (F'av) can simply kill the Magical Girls anytime he wants to. He doesn't appear to be bound by any rules (per se) or a natural law (like Madoka Magica). Ruler's death appeared after the fact to be quite bloody, they didn't really explain how she died, unlike Nemurin. Still think Nemurin's candies should have still counted, after all, her powers were dream based. |
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Blood-
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Calling Swim Swim evil is an incredibly simplistic evaluation. I get why people make it because many of us liked the girls who have died because of Swim Swim. However, the show has done something very interesting with her as an antogonist and if you are the type of person who actually enjoys thinking, you should take the time to appreciate it.
I've never really run across an antagonist like Swim Swim before. There's clearly something not right with her in RL. I've speculated that she is somewhere on the spectrum. Among other things, she takes things too literally. It was unfortunate she fell under the influence of Ruler. She has taken Ruler's lessons literally and does not have the intellectual capacity to discern nuance and context. The results have been tragic. She's not evil. If she'd been taken in by Sister Nana, she'd be striving to be the kind leader in Sister Nana's mold. If she were evil, she'd be doing bad things regardless of who was influencing her and I just don't believe it. Enjoy the complexity of her situation because you don't get that in antagonists in anime very much. There is only one true villain in the show and that is F'av. He selected various personalities and then manipulated the situation to ensure maximum carnage and chaos. All simply because he was bored. He needs to die. |
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TarsTarkas
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Calling Swim Swim evil, does nothing to take away from her character. I am not talking about some supernatural or religious evil, but rather the evil in one's actions and thoughts.
While Swim Swim is not evil in the way Cranberry and Calamity Mary were, her actions are evil, especially what she did to Tama. You may be right that she has some development problems, but that doesn't excuse her actions. Classifying something as evil, doesn't eliminate discussion on the reasons for why the character acts that way. Nor does it mean that an evil character can't find the light. Though I find anime tends to be way extravagant when it comes to forgiveness. |
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Blood-
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Yes, some of Swim Swim's actions have been evil - although she lacks the capacity to understand them in that light. I find the use of the word evil fairly trite, though. It's easy just to dismiss a character as "evil" and be done with it. Like I said before, the show has done something far more interesting than merely creating an "evil" Swim Swim.
In any case, I'm incredibly interested in seeing how this all gets resolved. One episode to go! |
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