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NEWS: Jujutsu Kaisen Manga Translator Arrested for Possession, Distribution of Child Pornography


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Actar



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:38 am Reply with quote
I'm someone who firmly believes that a person's work should be divorced from the person him/herself. No matter their beliefs, opinions or criminal history, it doesn't affect the quality of their work, their right to get fairly compensated for it nor my ability to enjoy it. I'm not letting my enjoyment be predicated on someone else's behavior.

For instance, I disagree with J. K. Rowling and think she's losing it, but I am still as big a fan of the Harry Potter franchise as I was all those years ago. When I pay money for Harry Potter merchandise, I'm well aware that that money goes to someone who I disagree with, but I still think she deserves it for the work that she's done.

Similarly, I think that it's repugnant that the translator possessed CP, but has absolutely nothing to do with the work that he's done on the manga professionally. To me, the cries for boycotting or redoing the translation are ridiculous. It's because of rhetoric like this that those with a criminal record find it hard to reintegrate into society. One could argue that they deserve all the scorn that they get, but isn't that what jail is for? The legal system is there for a reason. Even people who have committed crimes deserve fair and equal compensation for their work.

In addition, these projects are almost always a collaborative effort. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater because there are a ton of other people who worked hard on these projects as well who will be taken down simply by association.
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Sailor Sedna





PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:46 am Reply with quote
I do agree that, yeah, he's not going be getting any money if people buy the mangas he's translated now, but the only other good thing is that hopefully like Matsuki, he will never be able to work anymore, and won't be able to walk around down the street without people knowing what he has done and with them rightfully treating him like garbage.

Either way, fudge him and all the sick, sad, pathetic monsters who participate in crimes like this, and I hope he gets the book thrown at him (according to laws in his state that's a Class 6 Felony for possession, a Class 3 felony for distribution and at least a 5 - 20 year sentence).
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Gem-Bug



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 1:23 pm Reply with quote
As a note, the current chapter that dropped today(134) is listed with a different translator.
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meiam



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:46 am Reply with quote
This is pretty light on detail, since he was a translator, was he translating some doujinshi with children character or were they pictures of real human?
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Sailor Sedna





PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:04 am Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
This is pretty light on detail, since he was a translator, was he translating some doujinshi with children character or were they pictures of real human?


It most likely was the latter.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:35 am Reply with quote
Яeverse wrote:
darn and i just ordered the manga today...now im feeling all kinds of awkward

never would have thought the OFFICIAL translator would do something like this.


This isn't something I'd be worried about. As pointed out by others, the translator isn't nearly as closely attached to the title as the creator/artist/writer or even the publisher. And you don't have to worry about supporting them, they don't get any sort of residuals, they're just contractors.

Viz has already replaced him on the manga.

meiam wrote:
This is pretty light on detail, since he was a translator, was he translating some doujinshi with children character or were they pictures of real human?
He was denied bail, which means the court felt he was either a flight risk, a risk to himself, or a risk to the community. The information released made no mention of drawings or obscenity. Finally, the involvement of ICAC suggest real children. So we're guessing it had to do with real children, but that's just a guess for now.

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dragonquiz



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 12:56 pm Reply with quote
Gem-Bug wrote:
As a note, the current chapter that dropped today(134) is listed with a different translator.


Actually the new translator, John Werry, started at chapter 133, though apparently the bonus chapter of 132.1 (in viz's case) was done by the now arrested translator even though it came out on Dec 13 and was arrested the day after ch 132 was published. Very weird with the timeline in that case.

Nonetheless, I was really worried we'll have another "Act-Age" scenario going on here, especially with the second cour of the anime coming out next week. Shocked
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Mr. slicer



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:51 pm Reply with quote
dragonquiz wrote:
Gem-Bug wrote:
As a note, the current chapter that dropped today(134) is listed with a different translator.


Actually the new translator, John Werry, started at chapter 133, though apparently the bonus chapter of 132.1 (in viz's case) was done by the now arrested translator even though it came out on Dec 13 and was arrested the day after ch 132 was published. Very weird with the timeline in that case.

Nonetheless, I was really worried we'll have another "Act-Age" scenario going on here, especially with the second cour of the anime coming out next week. Shocked

I doubt see why the will cancel the original work over the arrest of a translator.
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dragonquiz



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:57 pm Reply with quote
Mr. slicer wrote:
I doubt see why the will cancel the original work over the arrest of a translator.


Before I read the whole title, I thought the author was arrested.
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revolutionotaku



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:08 pm Reply with quote
zawa113 wrote:
CatSword wrote:
As someone who will defend drawings to my grave, we have to stop doing this every time someone involved with anime or manga gets hit with a child porn possession. It's honestly quite rare that someone, especially in the United States, gets hit with these charges over drawings.

Yes, but the Chris Handley thing from like 2009 or whatever shows that it's not a 0% chance. I feel like the Chris Handley thing will call into question all of these sorts of cases in the community from now on, it was that big and we didn't realize it.

I don't believe the ICAC was involved in Handley's case (quick search says the ICAC started in 1998), but I don't think it matters, the well has been poisoned.


I've sent informative information to the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund for the past few years in defense of anime/manga to try and prevent another Christopher Handley situation from happening again. Here's the proof.
http://cbldf.org/?s=Jeffrey+Rolek
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Doddler



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:15 am Reply with quote
Tempest wrote:
He was denied bail, which means the court felt he was either a flight risk, a risk to himself, or a risk to the community. The information released made no mention of drawings or obscenity. Finally, the involvement of ICAC suggest real children. So we're guessing it had to do with real children, but that's just a guess for now.

-t

I agree, it's very unlikely this is anime related. It looks like Stefan was previously picked up in Japan 6 years ago while teaching English there for installing a hidden camera in a girls change room at an elementary school. https://www.sankei.com/region/news/140716/rgn1407160030-n1.html
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3rdImpakt



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 4:20 am Reply with quote
Lmao.... They pinned this as a headline article on the website (kind of weird in the first place) and then took it down the same day to put up a Jujustu Kaisen English translated release full banner advertisement. Kind of hilarious.
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Blanchimont



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:28 am Reply with quote
Doddler wrote:
I agree, it's very unlikely this is anime related. It looks like Stefan was previously picked up in Japan 6 years ago while teaching English there for installing a hidden camera in a girls change room at an elementary school. https://www.sankei.com/region/news/140716/rgn1407160030-n1.html

Where/how did you find that, I haven't seen this tidbit mentioned anywhere and I usually keep pretty good track on things? If true, that certainly adds context to what kind of person he is...

Also, anyone going to that page better copy/paste the text to deepl instead of directly translating with google. Trust me, the difference is night and day...
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