Forum - View topicLapses of logic that bug me.
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TheRoyalFamily
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The biggest one that's bugged me for a long time was the end of Death Note. We have Light, who constantly one-upped the greatest detective in the world - who also happened be be with him nearly constantly for quite some time - by keeping cool and stuff, would suddenly freak out when Near got him at the end. Near had no actual evidence - only a correct theory, just like L had. Why did he fall apart then? He was in an even better position than he was with L, and yet he throws it all away. Totally out of character, and made no sense.
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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She most certainly does not lack common sense, she simply chooses to ignore it because it is boring. That's kind of the point of her telling Kyon about the time she went to the baseball game, and she realized how insignificant she is in the world. That's why she decides to make "The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina", because she knows that nothing so outrageous could ever really happen. |
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DuskyPredator
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Yes and also in Haruhi, that even thought it may not look it she does have common sense, spoiler[if not the universe would be all screwy. Though for example when she was makeing the movie, she was getting a bit carried away at times and screwy things started to happen like extinct pigeons appearing, mikuru beam and a talking cat. If she had no common sense, crazy things would happen more often.]
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
 Posts: 3498 Location: IN your nightmares |
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the Rancorous
 Posts: 2248 Location: Hunting the Dragon in Gransys |
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Her awareness did not 'come and go for no reason.' spoiler[She wasn't understanding what was happening either. Then, she saw what she had always wanted to see in the other world happening right in front of her. This is what started to trigger her, but she still never 'gets there.' She even says "I don't know why, but I just know that things will be all right and they will appear!" thus proving that whatever she was doing was still very subconscious at this time; in other words, she had not become aware.] And how she interprets the ordeal is indeed important to this issue: spoiler[she concluded it was all a dream, therefore, whatever state of awakening she was in was reversed back to zero.]
The problem here, I think, is that you are not considering the big picture. spoiler[The world was incomplete, yes, however, look at what was happening just at the start of this world. I could only imagine how ephed up of a world that would eventually turn into. Koizumi also explains how if Haruhi ever became aware that espers, aliens, and time travelers existed, she would then start subconsciously implementing them everywhere, disrupting the balance of the world into chaos and so on. Therefore, the world that Haruhi wants, would be quite the hell-hole for anyone who is not Haruhi.]
This might hold merit if spoiler[Kyon had not made contact with Koizumi from the other side, but the fact of the matter is, he did; therefore, no matter how exact Haruhi's copy of his friends in the other world were, to Kyon they were still just mere copies, and he still knew that the other world was possibly in danger of ceasing to exist.] On a more 'pretentious' level; spoiler[how could Haruhi make exact replicas of the people if she didn't even know much about them in the first place? She didn't know what Mikuru, Koizumi, or Nagato really were, about their personal interactions with Kyon, at this point in the series she didn't know Kyon's sister. So then, the only way in which your claim can hold truth, is if you completely do away with sense and logic and say "well, because she's a god" which would be completely inconsistent with the way of which this series presented itself.] |
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Miranox
 Posts: 247 Location: Montreal, Canada |
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spoiler[Haruhi is never fully conscious of her abilities, but during the time in the 'other dimension' she became partially aware of what was happening and, more importantly, what was going to happen. For example, she tells Kyon she's certain they will "see the sun again". How could she possibly know that if she was unaware?]
Koizumi also says that spoiler[Haruhi's new dimension will "soon start looking familiar". This implies it wouldn't be too different from the 'real world' once it's completed.] spoiler[The excuses Koizumi, Nagato and Asahina give for letting Haruhi stay ignorant aren't very convincing if you think about them carefully. Implying that Haruhi created a universe subconsciously is nonsense, unless her subconscious can function by itself, in which case it would be a separate entity. Koizumi's theory is pure speculation. There's a high chance it's wrong considering how little is known about the link between Haruhi's mind/desires and her abilities and it doesn't have anything to do with Haruhi's desire to create a new world anyway.]
This is just silly. spoiler[An exact replica would be indistinguishable from the original. If Kyon met one in the new world, for all he knows it is the original. As Koizumi explains afterwards, their reality could very well be the new world. And how could Haruhi not know anything about the SOS Brigade members? The current theory is that she created their universe, so replicating one tiny part of it would be child's play regardless if it's her subconscious doing all the work.] |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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I don't see why people have a problem with this. Haven't you ever considered that Frieza's estimate was wrong? He even states in the show that the planet was "stubborn" and lasting longer than he thought it would.
But we are talking about the safety of the human race, and machines that will only accept one pilot (even with spoiler[the dummy plug system initiated, as seen in the eighteenth episode).] |
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HaruhiToy
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Can someone, somewhere please inject into whatever schools exist for budding anime creators the knowledge that there is no such thing as a skyscraper that can remain intact when leaning more than 5 degrees from vertical?
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eyeresist
 Posts: 995 Location: a 320x240 resolution igloo (Sydney) |
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How about that scene in Kaze no Yojimbo in which a helicopter hovers over a burning house? Any pilot who tried to pull that stunt would (a) lose his licence, and (b) die.
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penguintruth
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Five episodes is vastly underrating it. Look, Freeza's very sensitive about his lack of time-telling skills. Don't think he hasn't tried to cope with it. As for Evangelion, what really bothers me is why anyone would be stupid enough to own a car in Tokyo-3. It's just going to get destroyed. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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I think it was eight episodes in the end.
That's a fatalistic attitude. Misato's got to find something to spend her paycheck on (besides beer that is). |
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penguintruth
Posts: 8493 Location: Penguinopolis |
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She can always use the money to hire a housekeeper. |
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egoist
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Space opera shows where spaceships will lose the oxygen if damaged, yet people can still breath outside regardless (I suppose the oxygen escaping by the hole on the ship filled the galaxy rather quickly). Glass Fleet is absolutely guilty of that.
Also in Naruto when the old man Hokage spoiler[was stabbed by Orochimaru and stayed alive for another 20 episodes or so, even though Orochimaru never removed the sword.] It feels as if the power balance is crumbling a few times; at times the characters are wounded easily and die easily, at others they are like the Terminator from Terminator 2.
You don't understand it at all. We messy people love our mess. Hiring a maid would be like killing our inner selves, or throwing us in the middle of an unknown jungle in Afghanistan. Stocking up empty bottles/cans of whatever we drink is like our natural hobby. |
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abunai
Old Regular
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... okay. You gotta watch out for the Brazilian tundra, too. - abunai |
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dirkusbirkus
 Posts: 699 Location: Manchester, UK |
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One thing that's pretty encompassing for a lot of series is the fact that characters always wear the same clothes. You'll see them wear the same outfit day after day after day.
The only possible explanations are that the plot is only advanced on the days those clothes are worn (The Plot Advancing Outfit™), or they own lots and lots of the same clothes and wear a new set every day. Obviously it's not true for every anime, but a good chunk of them! |
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