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dragoneyes001
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ok some of you will find this a bit off the wall but in anime there seems to be a trend which all the producers follow:
if the girl is over 10 years old she will even when called flat have a C-cup or larger breasts. sure there are the girls who are much larger than the rest yet it seems impossible to find girls with even close to normal growth sizes based on their age groups. A-B cups seem to not exist in anime unless as I said the girl is an infant or in grade school. its even worse in hentai where they exaggerate it even more. what I'm wondering is are all the key animators either 12 year old boys with boob fetishes or are the animation directors telling the animators to over emphasize women's and girls breasts to cater to some otaku stereotype? [EDIT: Changed your title to make it more intriguing. -TK] |
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RHachicho
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Hrmmm well I imagine that at least some of it is to do with pleasing the Otaku fanbase however it has to be said that both the extremes of small and large quests are fertile grounds for the kind of humor that litters mainstream Anime its a bit hard to make fun of a girls hooters if they are distinctly average. Also they are more characterful Big is alluring and matronly and small is young, pure and insecure.
At the foundation of Anime in my opinion is that a persons character is outlined by their physical appearance It's the reason for the whacky hair colours you can often tell at a glance what type of person a new arrival is going to be by a combination of their physical appearance and their voice .. breast size is a part of this. |
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Shiroi Hane
Encyclopedia Editor
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I know absolutely nothing about cup sizes, but since I dislike oversized boobs in anime I have to say that is a sweeping statement. There's any number of anime characters over 10 who are the butt of breast size jokes and then there's the characters for whom being small or underdeveloped is a defining characteristic like Konata, Mayumi, Taiga etc. There's even charts like this.
Something to bear in mind is Japanese women are generally smaller breasted than American women. See http://www.gaijinsmash.net/archives/operation_japan.phtml |
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Keonyn
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As much as anime fans love to attack domestic television and movies for having cliches and redundant elements, anime is actually no different. Fanservice has long been a key feature in anime. Not every series has it, but a great deal of them do to some level or another. It's just a proven formula that works well for them, which is really where all the cliches and overused elements come from.
It sells, that much is obvious. The marketing clearly shows the trends, and you look at accessories and figures and it's clear to see that the market for those has recognized that sell factor as well. It's a business, and that's what sells, just like the way the business works over here. The culture is different so the cliches aren't the same, but the driving force behind them is still quite similar. |
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Bento-Box
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I kinda have to disagree.
Lina Inverse was constantly called flat and she definitely did not have C-cups. She was, at most, a B. And there are plenty of flat chested girls in anime who are not under the age of 10. Maka from the Soul Eater anime is completely flat, looks like the yakuza tomboy from Nyan Koi is pretty flat also, and she's in High School. I don't think Rei Ayaname was originally over a B cup either. Also, Shana from Shakugan no Shana doesn't seem to be busty. I'm sure there are more examples, but those are just the ones off the top of my head. As for finding girls who are close to what would be considered "normal" in Japan, it's completely different sizing than the US or Europe because Japanese girl's frames are smaller (generally). Therefore, it may be fairly common to find A,B cups over there. I've never been to Japan nor have I discussed this with any Japanese individuals. This is just my opinion and take on it based on body size and what I've seen in movies or pictures. I think C and D cups are much more prevalent in the US and not as common in Japanese culture so they are more appealing because people in Japan see less of this kind of natural woman. Also, most men I know like big breasts anyways. So, from a marketing perspective, it never hurts to have a few busty girls. I've been working on a manga that I plan to start selling and sending off to different companies and I've made sure to include a variety of body sizes and types that will appeal to most people, but nothing that I would consider to be abnormally large (i.e. putting DD cup on a 7-year-old). I'm writing a comedy, so I can use the larger girls to my advantage with fan service. If I were working on a serious story, I would tone it down quite a bit and probably only have one voluptuous woman instead of three. That way, I would still have an appealing body type, but I wouldn't be making my story less believable by having TONS of that kind of girl running around. It's all about the marketing and getting the product sold while keeping your story and characters likable, relate-able, and believable while still being appealing. |
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Ktimene's Lover
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7-year-old hav a DD cup is called Eiken. Eiken is one of the few harem I detest because the young girls have over the top boobs.
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DuskyPredator
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I don't think every anime has females over 10 being abnormaly large, though there is often atleast one. I might name some that might including Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, doesn't go crazy except for one character who is foreign or something. Lucky Star I think tends to not have much focus on it except for one character and comparing another two. And I think the characters Azumanga Daioh are not too bad.
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animeboy12
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Can someone explain to me why people with boob fitishes are always considered immature? I dunno about everyone else but I consider it immature that there are still people out there who don't realize that everyone has their own aesthetics preference. Anyway I can't agree with you on your analysis and it's not help by the fact that you have no examples and there are tons of anime series with typical moe or shoujo character design that would counter your opinion. Anyway it's like Keonyn is usually about what sell. Though at the same time there are ,believe it or not character designers, who like big breasts, uno makoto, nishida asako, Mikan EHIME and many others have a record of using busty characters in their official and unofficial works. If anything anime character are more than their bust. If Divergence Eve proves, and witchblade prove anything you can have busty character with some depth in them. |
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PetrifiedJello
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The art, animation, character designs, and story are all lost when someone remarks how well an anime is because some character is topless. The breast fetish isn't considered by most to be immature if said person shows a reasonable discussion regarding nudity, rather than "Did you see Queens Blade??? Dude, a chick's got some huge knockers that spit acid! Freakin' awesome. You need to check it out." That doesn't scream immaturity to you? If not, well, you've a definition that's more lax than mine. There's been plenty of discussions of nudity in anime that doesn't have one drooling at the mouth to rush out and buy a series simply because of them. Personally, I don't see the attraction. Most just look so fake, especially the ones which are so large, I'm shocked the silicon doesn't explode everywhere.
I think you're missing an important observation when making a quote like this, and it has to do with a girl's confidence in her chest size. Even with a "C" cup, being called flat chested is regarded as an insult, and most of the time, it's very effective. Women are constantly objectified over their chest size, so any negative comment is detrimental to their self confidence. Granted, not all women are like this, but in the anime you've seen, wouldn't you think this applies? Most series I've watched usually have the comment said in a demeaning manner simply to attack another. Because your eyes should really note the difference between a "C" cup and a flat chest. Osaka, from Azumanga Daioh is definitely flat chested, but Tomo is the one suffering from the lack of self confidence, often comparing herself to Sukaki, the largest of the girls. Check her reaction when Yomi says she's part of "Chiyo-chan's group" despite her being more endowed than Osaka. The "fan service" sizes are tolerated simply because they're purposely crafted to be tantalizing to some viewers. Rarely do I see girls running around with chests that large. I'm sure some creator's take special liberties in chest designs, but most of the time it's to compensate for a truly horrid story. Those who enjoy large chests won't be that disappointed if the series blows. Then there's Ikki Tousen. Yeah, I'm just as confused. 
wait's for Blood-'s remark, as this is right up his alley |
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animeboy12
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I'm afriad I can't agree with most of you're post PetrifiedJello. My appreciation or respect for a series doesn't diminish or heighten because of some elses opinion. I can watch a anime sereis like najica blitz tactics for the well crafted story and character and the same time someone else can watch it for the titillation and pantyshots neither of us are wrong as the anime contains both and neither opinion is better or more mature because at the end of the day the main purpose of anime is to entertain or compel us.
And I definitely disagree about large breasts somehow "compensate" for bad story. Yomiko readman from read or die, masane amaha from witchblade, or all the female cast from divergance eve all had large cup size and the same time all had depth in them and come from series with competent storytelling. As Keonyn it's mainly for marketing purposes or like I said the character designer already preference for busty characters. |
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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I find the example of Yomiko an interesting one, because I didn't even notice she was rather well endowed until about the third time I watched the OVA.
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egoist
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Mmm... boobies. It depends a lot if I'll enjoy it or not in anime. In my opinion, Queen's Blade would've been a better anime without so many bare boobies. There's always this "mystery" or "curiosity" feeling that I really enjoy whenever I see any convered boob, but anime such as Queen's Blade totally murdered that feeling.
Big boobies aren't always a plus in every anime; sometimes it looks just way too weird too see massive boobies covering my screen. After all, yes, I do enjoy huge boobies in anime [but not too huge, since there's a limit for everything], but covered boobies. |
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animeboy12
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true if I were to mention read or die and busty in the same sentences most people would think I was talking about Nancy but yomiko herself has quite a a few moments |
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Toxic Jackal
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Ten year old girls with large boobs? No anime comes to mind(that I've seen at least) where young girls have large breasts. Maybe my mind is foggy and broken down right now, and I can't think properly. Most animez I have seen are with older women, who have large boobs. I think most of this has to do with fan service though. I noticed in GITS that the Major's rack almost doubled in size from S.A.C to 2nd GIG, yet she now wears very less provocative clothing. Yet when she wears military or formal dress, they look almost flat. Confusion abounds.
Every time I hear the word "boobies" it reminds me of my favorite blue footed bird. 
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animeboy12
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It happens but it is rare. we have... Mimi Usa from Kodomo no Jikan age:8 ikaruga kagomefrom Asu No Yoichi age:10 Jacqueline Baumgoldfrom dragonaut age:11 However, tc says these types of girls are ridiculed for being flat when it couldn't be any different. Mimi Usa is riduculed, by adults no less, about how big her breasts and her breasts are part of the reason why she's insure. ikaruga kagome has to bind her breasts to hide them from her less endowed older sister Jacqueline Baumgold breast size is somewhat shocking to her other teammate akira. It should noted also that in all cased these girls are significantly significantly dwafed by the rest of the cast and that goes double, tripple and quadruple for Jacqueline. to answer you're second question. Yes there are times when breast size does increase to heighten the fanservice at the same time it the word big has different meanings to a lot of people. So while double ds might be big to one animator, another one might start at double g's. |
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