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RenTers



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:07 am Reply with quote
Did you make that yourself for the Flake of the week? It's really really good. (and I'm scared for next week)

Also is that a fact? Only 2/3 yaoi fangirls will grow up successful? I better go check my statistics again.
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DRWii



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:16 am Reply with quote
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The vast majority of late-night anime are controlled by these media companies. If you watch them on TV in Japan, every commercial is for their own product. The broadcasts themselves are paid for; the entire airing is basically an infomercial for the DVD.

And yet we still manage to get the occasional awesome show from this very corporate/business-y setup? I'm amazed. (Not being sarcastic).
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 1:29 am Reply with quote
Holy crap, I had no idea so many people had to approve so many little details to make an anime series, and to bring them over to the US. It's no wonder it sometimes takes forever for a show to get over here!
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rekishi



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:29 am Reply with quote
to the "i can draw, and want to get a job in the anime industry" girl... why do you want to turn something you're good at and enjoy into a job...? i can draw a little too, but the last thing i'd want to have is a boss telling me what to draw and how fast i have to draw it. nothing ruins a hobby like having to do it for a living. i started trying to develop my style into anime-esque back in the day, y'know like serious "GITS style" drawing... life like and what not... and eventually decided it wasn't worth it... i wasn't really enjoying it, and i could never decide how or what i wanted to draw... i like drawing original stuff, since i suck at recreating something else or drawing fan art... so i gave that the flick and switched back to drawing cartoony like i always used to as a teenager... and i feel much better about it... if i draw anything anime style these days it's usually just cute chibi characters just for fun... Very Happy

as for the flake of the week... i jumped right there, as i'm sure many others did... and i thank god that the lolicon people's email wasn't posted. refer to my last weeks comment on "caring so less about them that i don't even hate them" that still applies and i'd hate for their subject to be repeatedly brought up every week. honestly, let the weirdos have their delusion so the rest of us normal people can just enjoy our hobby in peace.

furry-porn... lol and ew!

on that note, yaoi fan girls... y'know, we must be blessed in australia, since even when i used go to the the farce that counted as my local "anime con" i don't really think i ever noticed any rabid yaoi fan girls. this was a few years ago, so maybe it's changed. my solution to not have to put up with yaoi fangirls, or obsessed fans in general: be somewhere else. i tend to avoid places where anime fans coalesce... since it seems i have very little in common with them, and never seem to fit in. plus i found the stuff they do; going to karaoke, making a big deal about eating pocky, going down to the local video arcade to waste $50.00 playing DDR all day etc, really really boring. i like anime, but that doesn't mean i like the fan sub-culture all that much. is that strange? maybe i'm just unique in thinking that way...

EDIT: wow, the irony of that last paragraph only just hit me after i posted... ANN counts as a place where anime fans coalesce... though i guess, online is different, because i always have the option of ignorance. i can just not read an annoying person's post and move on... bit hard to do that in real life... though it would be really nice if we lived in a society where it was socially acceptable to say to someone "please go away, your very presence offends me" without them taking offence in turn. maybe society will evolve into that in the future.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 2:52 am Reply with quote
rekishi wrote:
to the "i can draw, and want to get a job in the anime industry" girl... why do you want to turn something you're good at and enjoy into a job...? i can draw a little too, but the last thing i'd want to have is a boss telling me what to draw and how fast i have to draw it. nothing ruins a hobby like having to do it for a living.


Sure but wouldn't it be much worse to have your boss telling you how fast to do something else you totally hate? You have to do something for a living. It's not going to be the same as drawing for fun but won't it be a lot better than doing something you don't like every day?
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teh*darkness



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 3:00 am Reply with quote
rekishi wrote:
my solution to not have to put up with yaoi fangirls, or obsessed fans in general: be somewhere else. i tend to avoid places where anime fans coalesce... since it seems i have very little in common with them, and never seem to fit in. plus i found the stuff they do; going to karaoke, making a big deal about eating pocky, going down to the local video arcade to waste $50.00 playing DDR all day etc, really really boring. i like anime, but that doesn't mean i like the fan sub-culture all that much. is that strange? maybe i'm just unique in thinking that way...

EDIT: wow, the irony of that last paragraph only just hit me after i posted... ANN counts as a place where anime fans coalesce... though i guess, online is different, because i always have the option of ignorance. i can just not read an annoying person's post and move on... bit hard to do that in real life... though it would be really nice if we lived in a society where it was socially acceptable to say to someone "please go away, your very presence offends me" without them taking offence in turn. maybe society will evolve into that in the future.


No, that isn't strange. I'm the same way. Even though I know quite a few people that went to Sakura-Con recently, that's just not something I'll do. They may be able to stand being around the 'fan sub-culture' as you put it, but I can't. I like anime, I like manga, I enjoy some thoughtful discourse on this wonderful website, but that's because I can ignore the idiots, the trolls and the obsessed people. In real life, at a convention, you actually have to either physically avoid those people, or put up with it. I just don't even want to deal with the mental stress of having to avoid them. So as much as I might like to see some of the convention guests and musical artists, it will likely never happen, unless I decide to risk going to our smaller Kumori Con sometime in the future.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:27 am Reply with quote
MorwenLaicoriel wrote:
Holy crap, I had no idea so many people had to approve so many little details to make an anime series, and to bring them over to the US. It's no wonder it sometimes takes forever for a show to get over here!
And it was looking so well as a few US networks and producers were offering sponsor money to the Japanese studios up until the economy was driven over the clift. I was hoping that maybe this new money might dilute the moe concentration at present, a lot. But the US sponsors know about the gold the Japanese have in their dusty backrooms and cellers that they thought was worthless, until the US sponsors made them realise there is a whole new market, outside of the hardcore fandom, that haven't seen them yet, so there is still hope.
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icepick314



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:44 am Reply with quote
i guess i'm lucky NOT to see any squeeling yaoi fangirls...
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Berserkfury819



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:06 am Reply with quote
icepick314 wrote:
i guess i'm lucky NOT to see any squeeling yaoi fangirls...


You have no idea. I've had some truly awful experiences with yaoi fangirls.
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Iritscen
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:20 am Reply with quote
rekishi wrote:
why do you want to turn something you're good at and enjoy into a job...? i can draw a little too, but the last thing i'd want to have is a boss telling me what to draw and how fast i have to draw it.

There's certainly truth in what you say, but imagine the satisfaction you'd feel seeing your designs realized in 3D in a game and displayed all over the box. No pain, no gain.

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Brian, if you're reading this, please back up to your column and look at the red arrows at the bottom, in fact the whole "Question of the Week" header that they're a part of. That image looks like butt. Really. It looks like you keep copying the top part of the image when you compose the new question's JPEG each week, and it gets worse every time it gets recompressed. In fact, I'm sure that's what you're doing. Stop doing it. Please?

Anyway, I'm enjoying the Answery goodness each week, keep up the good work!
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rekishi



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:30 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
rekishi wrote:
to the "i can draw, and want to get a job in the anime industry" girl... why do you want to turn something you're good at and enjoy into a job...? i can draw a little too, but the last thing i'd want to have is a boss telling me what to draw and how fast i have to draw it. nothing ruins a hobby like having to do it for a living.


Sure but wouldn't it be much worse to have your boss telling you how fast to do something else you totally hate? You have to do something for a living. It's not going to be the same as drawing for fun but won't it be a lot better than doing something you don't like every day?


that only applies if you hate your job... i like my job... the work is varied and the pay is good... my philosophy is to have a job you like, but keep the hobbies you love just for you and what you want to do... if you're fine with turning your hobby into work, then all the power to ya... but to me, i think i would grow weary of my hobbies if i had to do them to earn a living.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:35 am Reply with quote
to the "I wanna be an professional anime artist" girl.

speaking as a 2nd year Art Major in college who also had the same aspirations at one time. OMIGOODNESS GO TO ART SCHOOL. seriously. like Brian said, the art world is VERY competitive. and just college in general will help you find a job anyway.

Also, if your planning to be an art major, you have to really enjoy art. It can't just be a "hobby" or spare time thing. You have to appreciate and enjoy the process of animation and drawing, otherwise you'll burn out and these classes will eat you alive.
So if your in junior high or high school. take advantage of the art classes at these levels first to try it out.


in short: Go take art classes. You'll thank me.
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PetrifiedJello



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:03 am Reply with quote
Green-lit topic:
Reading the information about how a series gets a green light reminded me of a recent article regarding U.S. broadcasting station changes.
(for those that don't know, this economy is pressuring the stations to make changes, including dropping one hour from "prime time". Here's the article: BusinessWeek article)

I've been in a debate that several more U.S. distributors will be gone by 2010, and this news seems to add more fuel to this debate.

Hopefully, the decline won't be too hurtful, but I suspect there's going to be less competition in the marketplace if ad revenue falls short.

To the artist-to-be:
School is definite. Listen to this advice. Without it, you're wasting time to make this your profession/livelihood.
Answerman said diversity is key, and he's absolutely correct. I would suggest you read up on those who are now unemployed due to this lacking skill.

Be honest with yourself. Do you really want to do this for a living or is it just spawned emotions from watching so much anime? Answer this question, and you'll discover many paths open to you.

There's nothing stopping you from getting a real job and drawing as a hobby. DeviantArt hosts many a portfolio from amateurs that give a professional a run for their money but choose not to do so simply due to the competition.

Good luck with your future!

Flake of the week:
Enough already. You've had your fun, and risking another thread lock based on the article in question is asinine.

Take it to PM if you have a beef with this user.

Otherwise, don't lock the thread. It's hypocritical for this site to lock a thread with intentional content to spark a flame war, especially when those who do it seem to be above "Teh Rules".
It's just a matter of time before this user begins his assault again.

Cloe warned me of adding such "fuel" to a thread.

Imagine, as a user, how difficult it is to determine the line. This crap of "do what I say and not what I do" isn't fair to users, especially those who support this site via subscription.

I've said my piece. Take from it what you will.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:32 am Reply with quote
ikillchicken wrote:
rekishi wrote:
to the "i can draw, and want to get a job in the anime industry" girl... why do you want to turn something you're good at and enjoy into a job...? i can draw a little too, but the last thing i'd want to have is a boss telling me what to draw and how fast i have to draw it. nothing ruins a hobby like having to do it for a living.


Sure but wouldn't it be much worse to have your boss telling you how fast to do something else you totally hate? You have to do something for a living. It's not going to be the same as drawing for fun but won't it be a lot better than doing something you don't like every day?


You might be surprised how quickly something you love can become something you loathe when an unreasonable boss is breathing down your neck. Of course, that's worst-case scenario, and not everyone who makes their hobbies into their careers have bad experiences. It's a risk you take when you go into a field that you love as a fan. On the other hand, it's kind of a risk you take with any profession.

So, uh, I guess that's just a really long way of saying YMMV. Wink
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DuelLadyS



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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:28 am Reply with quote
S'funny, the 'how to be an artist for a living' thing came up for me over Sakura Con weekend. Points I picked up:

From the panel on how to to get into game design: my friend asked what sort of portfolio work is best when applying for an art position. The panelist said "well, I can't tell you what'll get you hired, but I can tell you what won't get you hired- ANIME."

The glut of fanartists trying to get into the 'biz', it seems, has earned anime artists a stigma of being a)hard to work with and b) severly limited in their art abilites outside of anime. So, at the risk of parroting, go to art school! Learn atanomy, learn lighting, learn landscapes even... the more well-rounded you are, the better you'll be.

From a friend who does freelance art for a living: Deviantart is fine for hobbies and just getting started, but professionally? it's like putting your resume on MySpace and giving the link to prospecitve employers- in other words, it looks really bad. if you really want to do art for a living, get a proper website to display your art on. Don't worry if you can't do web design- just as you are trying to get into the art world, there's probably a student out there trying to get into web design who'd be happy to set you up so he can put the site on his resume too.

Best of luck, dude- you're gonna need it.
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