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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:55 am
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You gotta admire someone who's able to make a living padding a series longer than those Naruto anime writers.
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bakayasha14
Joined: 24 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:07 am
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YAY! I can't wait to see her next work!
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rankothefiremage
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Location: Michigan
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:18 am
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maybe she'll finally give ranma an ending.
-Gabe, who's enjoyment of said manga can be seen with just a look.
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Unit 03.5-ish
Joined: 07 Dec 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:20 am
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SPOILER: whatever the show is, it won't have a legitimate ending!
Does she EVER make stuff that has a well-defined stopping point?
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musashi1600
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:44 am
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Unit 03.5-ish wrote: | Does she EVER make stuff that has a well-defined stopping point? |
I'm told Maison Ikkoku had an ending.
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SongstressCela
Joined: 26 Sep 2008
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:48 am
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I've got hope this might be interesting, though I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it somehow has the quality of her older works rather than anything even remotely recent.
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sokpupet
Joined: 22 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 2:50 am
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Alright... there's this little thing called a pasture and I think it's time she was sent out to it.
Thank you for all the stories, but does anybody really have the patience for a paper thin plot to take 5-10 years to play out to an ambiguous conclusion?
I know there are, and there's a lot of them, but come on.
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penguintruth
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:27 am
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Yeah, guys, I'm sure one of Japan's most successful manga authors is going to quit because you dislike her work.
Granted, I got real tired of Inu Yasha after a while, too, but there's no denying her massive popularity.
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LightYagami
Joined: 02 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:39 am
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If this series does not flop(Which I highly doubt it won't) this will probably be her final manga and I honestly hope that she goes out with a bang.
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amono
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:48 am
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Come on, you got admit, she is the Queen of situational comedy.
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kazenoyume
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:53 am
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Unit 03.5-ish wrote: | SPOILER: whatever the show is, it won't have a legitimate ending!
Does she EVER make stuff that has a well-defined stopping point? |
Yes she did. Inuyasha, Maison Ikkoku, One Pound Gospel. Loads of short stories.
Every series (and almost every short story) but Urusei Yatsura and Ranma 1/2 (how did people expect an episodic comedy to end anyway, by concluding everything that was funny about it? The endings of those serials were entirely appropriate for the genre).
Her reputation in US fandom for not being able to write endings is entirely unearned.
I got fed up with the later volumes of Inuyasha too (although I adore the series as a whole), but I tire of the Takahashi hate so prevalent in the Western fandom. She's done a lot for the world of manga and anime, truly.
I wish her good luck on her next series. She's a very good mangaka and although she's not perfect (who is?), she's definitely given us a lot more good than bad.
LightYagami wrote: | If this series does not flop(Which I highly doubt it won't) this will probably be her final manga and I honestly hope that she goes out with a bang. |
You think this is going to flop? Seriously? Seriously?
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sokpupet
Joined: 22 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:23 am
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I don't hate her. I'm glad that she's given the world so many stories. There's a chance her next series will be awesome and she'll go out on such a high note as to even further solidify her place in mangaka legend.
But with the decline of Inuyasha, doesn't that speak to her skill now? For me, as long as there isn't any kind of romantic interest in the story there will be something to look forward to.
And no villain with super 'deus ex machina' powers either. We get it madam, you've perfected it
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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:29 am
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I thought it was just Ranma which didn't have an ending, not UY. Not that I would care about UY, since it's fine the way it is...
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kazenoyume
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:36 am
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sokpupet wrote: | I don't hate her. I'm glad that she's given the world so many stories. There's a chance her next series will be awesome and she'll go out on such a high note as to even further solidify her place in mangaka legend.
But with the decline of Inuyasha, doesn't that speak to her skill now? For me, as long as there isn't any kind of romantic interest in the story there will be something to look forward to.
And no villain with super 'deus ex machina' powers either. We get it madam, you've perfected it |
Not really, because even in the later chapters of Inuyasha, there were still moments when her storytelling was really great again. That's actually part of what frustrated me. I was like "see I know you can do it! Now do it instead of that other stuff!"
I think what honestly happened is that she hadn't worked out the kinks in the ending of Inuyasha, and she struggled with that for years. Actually in an interview recently she said that she had been trying to decide where to end Kagome and Inuyasha's story since the anime ended. That was four years before the end of the manga, which for me, was the exact point in which the manga started going downhill. Right after Kagura's death is when it began to irritate me.
I don't think that's a coincidence. I think she dragged it out until she had decided on an ending, which resulted in some pretty lame crap. While that was a big mistake on her part, I don't think it means she can't tell a great story anymore at all. I just think it means she made a mistake.
In her previous stories, they were pretty episodic. Even Maison Ikkoku was. She's admitted she doesn't plan ahead that much, and that's fine for an episodic narrative, and it even worked fine for Inuyasha for a long while. But that's what doomed her with Inuyasha. Hopefully she's learned from that and if she does do a plot intensive series, she'll plan ahead better. She can definitely still tell a story. In addition to the sometimes awesome arcs in later Inuyasha, she still did some really great short stories and concluded One Pound Gospel with a really lovely ending while she was doing subpar stuff with IY. There's been good writing going on during these recent years, it's just not always been on her main serial.
Plus the final few chapters of IY were actually really really good. Except for the disdainful lack of Kouga.
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amono
Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:19 am
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Well, you also have to remember that all of stories don't always have the same audience in mind. Inuyasha, Ranma, and Those Obnoxious Aliens were written with younger teens in mind.
One Pound Gospel, Maison Ikkoku, and Mermaids Forest were meant for an older audience.
This might have something to do with the stories and writing differences.
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