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Adults only! age rating for Koihime Musou




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darkchibi07



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 7:47 am Reply with quote
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Is there a reason that series got an Adults only! age rating? The series is a TV show and not even close to a hentai (there's one suggestive scene, but it's pretty minor and doesn't overshadow the entire series).
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dormcat
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:21 am Reply with quote
Another example of allowing John Doe to submit "erotica" genre (sigh).

Personally I'd prefer to have the "adults only!" rating back to staff-only [age rating] field, and titles with such a rating will have "erotica" as genre automatically. Is it technically possible, Dan?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:50 am Reply with quote
Of course it's trouble to allow anyone anyone to enter information. The question is: is it more trouble than it's worth?

Let's try to answer that by looking at all "erotica" genres that were submitted by non-staff users:
2008-10-09 00:42:36 Koihime†Musō (OAV)
2008-10-07 22:23:13 Koihime†Musō (TV) FALSE
2008-08-30 19:47:00 17-sai - Hajimete no H (manga)
2008-08-29 21:33:34 Vanilla (manga)
2008-08-28 11:23:16 No Bra (manga)
2008-08-19 12:19:17 SEX=LOVE² (manga)
2008-08-15 05:07:07 Casino Lily (manga)
2008-08-15 04:54:55 Girl Friend (manga)
2008-08-01 17:35:17 Aoki Honoo (OAV)
2008-07-28 12:35:38 Aremoshitai, Koremoshitai (manga)
2008-07-27 20:37:33 My Paranoid Next Door Neighbor (manga)
2008-07-22 05:05:35 Prince Charming (manga)
2008-07-22 04:58:56 Junjo Romantica (manga)
2008-07-22 04:38:19 Love Celeb (manga)
2008-07-20 13:09:12 Mr. Arashi's Amazing Freak Show (manga)
2008-07-06 13:30:00 Nightmare Fortress ~Majin no Jousai~ (manga)
2008-06-24 22:02:49 Rakuen Danshi - Beast Harem (manga)
2008-06-16 15:03:29 Sundome (manga)
2008-06-12 22:54:29 He is my Master (manga)
2008-05-20 12:18:46 Kotetsu no Daiboken (manga)
2008-05-20 00:25:14 Clannad (TV) FALSE
2008-05-14 08:21:06 Valkyr (manga)
2008-05-14 08:15:58 Space Dreams (manga)
2008-05-14 08:05:01 Love Touch (manga)
2008-05-14 07:19:11 I Love You (manga by L. Nekojima)
2008-05-14 06:17:58 Bang's Sexplosion (manga)
2008-05-08 02:58:05 Chisa × Pon (manga)
2008-05-07 16:11:51 Gantz (manga)
2008-05-04 21:50:12 Love Junkies (manga)
2008-04-30 05:52:01 Okane ga Nai (manga)
2008-04-27 00:48:44 10$ (manga)
2008-04-24 16:56:39 Kamen no Maid Guy (TV) FALSE
2008-04-19 20:58:33 Ral Ω Grad (manga)
2008-04-08 21:22:47 Haou Airen (manga)
2008-03-21 20:21:59 D-ASH (manga)
2008-03-18 17:12:12 Kyōken Breeder (manga)
2008-03-18 16:07:08 Love Neco (manga)
2008-03-10 20:59:43 Amaenaideyo!! (TV) FALSE
2008-03-05 14:12:43 Hot Limit (manga)
2008-02-22 15:51:19 I Dream of Mimi (OAV)
2008-02-20 13:02:43 Mouse (TV)
2008-02-20 11:19:49 Eiken (OAV)
2008-02-20 11:17:57 Fencer of Minerva (OAV)
2008-02-19 21:12:11 Ikki Tousen (TV)
2008-02-18 13:24:16 Boku no Futatsu no Tsubasa (manga)
2008-02-16 12:37:36 The Tyrant Falls in Love (manga)

Then again, I just noticed that the description for erotica is "Main purpose is to sexually titillate the viewer." That's too easy to misunderstand; I'm going to change it to "The depiction of sexual acts with the purpose of arousing the viewer."
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:39 pm Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:
Is there a reason that series got an Adults only! age rating? The series is a TV show and not even close to a hentai (there's one suggestive scene, but it's pretty minor and doesn't overshadow the entire series).


Worth noting that erotica does not always equate to porn (hentai). I haven't seen Kohime, so I can't judge whether or not it is erotica, but there's a lot of non-pornographic erotica out there (ex: Lethal Attraction).

Personally, I wonder if we should probably have the genre "porn" to differentiate the two, but our AO rating equals that.

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cool3865



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:19 pm Reply with quote
i dunno, with F3 i was too busy laughing to be aroused. altho it is clearly a hentai
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:17 pm Reply with quote
tempest wrote:
Personally, I wonder if we should probably have the genre "porn" to differentiate the two, but our AO rating equals that.

Right now, AO = erotica
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:06 pm Reply with quote
Dan42 wrote:
tempest wrote:
Personally, I wonder if we should probably have the genre "porn" to differentiate the two, but our AO rating equals that.

Right now, AO = erotica


But how do we differentiate between explicit porn, and echi material that isn't actually pornographic?

I wish I could think of examples, but sadly my anime interests don't gravitate that way.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:46 pm Reply with quote
tempest wrote:
I wish I could think of examples, but sadly my anime interests don't gravitate that way.

Who dares to give examples after seeing the comment above? Mr. Green Anime smile + sweatdrop
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:31 pm Reply with quote
Don't get me wrong. I don't watch non pornographic erotica. If I'm going to watch something erotic, I'd rather just watch pr0n.

And of course, I was referring to anime. I'm aware of a lot of live-action non-pornographic erotica.

:-p

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rti9



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:52 pm Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
tempest wrote:
I wish I could think of examples, but sadly my anime interests don't gravitate that way.

Who dares to give examples after seeing the comment above? Mr. Green Anime smile + sweatdrop

I see no problem in liking hentai. Good for the encyclopedia that people aren't ashamed of posting on the North American Licenses (Adult) thread. doc-watson42 has all my respect.

Oh, and if someone is going to post examples, let them be very detailed. Please. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:55 pm Reply with quote
rti9 wrote:
Good for the encyclopedia that people aren't ashamed of posting on the North American Licenses (Adult) thread.

Too bad that hentai anime is not even legal in Taiwan... yet hentai manga is. Rolling Eyes

rti9 wrote:
Oh, and if someone is going to post examples, let them be very detailed. Please. Wink

Erm, detailed in which way? Wink

I'd say Kanokon is a good recent example*. It does manage to push broadcasting censorship standards to the limit, such as spoiler[butt licking] and spoiler[Band-Aid "bikini"] etc. The DVD releases are even more revealing, with spoiler[nipples and frontal nudity.]

*Note the licensing info
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Dorcas_Aurelia



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:20 pm Reply with quote
Another example that looks to fall just short of the Adults Only rating is Mnemosyne. It is chock full of sexually-charged nudity and sex, spoiler[including a lesbian orgy in episode 5,] but never quite shows genitalia. Some of the scenes of have guro aspects to them. However, there is enough more time and content devoted to the plot that it can be considered not just for titillation.
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