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Warstar77
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there are people who watch manga and anime and play games are opposed to Virtual Child Porn ban thing and they cant do that and it not fair anime/manga/game fans and companies who make it too. There will be protestses from anime/manga/game fans and companies who will try to stop virtual child porn ban and there also messing with people lifes who use it for personal use and its there will be major protest against the virtual child porn ban thing anime/manga/game fans and companies will protest such thing what the UNUCEF has done and try to undo it, Its only thing we use for personal use and UNCEF will not take that away and anime/manga/game fans and companies will start suing for damages to companies and for muddling people lifes who watch it or play and buy it anime/manga/game fans
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Splitter
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Since the fascism claims have already been made, I'll stay out of that.
Personally, I can't see this being a severe impact on the manga and anime industry like some believe. Stuff like Strike Witches will still be made because it's not hentai. Yes, you see the.. *ahem* "outline", but it's not a sexual situation and it's not the focus. Now, I can see this impacting Comiket and other doujinshi festivals, but otherwise what's really going to be the impact? |
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Pinkwings
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I love how alot of you are crying over a possible ban on virtual child porn.
I recently read this shota yaoi. It was an accident...sorta. That and curiosity. I honestly wanted to erase my memory afterwards. It was supposed to be a comedy but it wasnt funny to me. Heres what happened: The older guy tricked the little boy into thinking he had a poisonous snake bite him and so he needed to suck out the poison. They then sucked out the "poison" for each other. (yes what you are thinking is correct) Then he said the little boy needed a shot. And proceeded stick him in the butt with his-..look it was horrible. Not trying to say anything. Just thought I'd share a mishap of mine. I dont care if its banned or not. I would kind of find it funny if it was though. I'd love to see how you guys would react. And the flood of posts. Man it would be funny. 
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bossyman15
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so would that mean no more Welcome to HNK?
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ConanSan
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Pinkwings
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That was porn? o_o..uh..I read a bit of it. T'was interesting. It didn't seem like porn at all to me. Possibly could have had some ecchi later-I didn't read that far, only the first few pages. But it honestly doesnt look like porn. I didn't see any bare tits and guys sticking their long johnsons into girls tacos. There wasnt any sex or nudity from what I read. I read a bit granted but I'm pretty sure its not porn. Confirm please? Also alot of people are mentioning ecchi series. I dont think that counts. But if I am wrong and they do count please tell me why. |
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grgspunk
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You know, considering the fact that their current prime minister, Taro Aso, happens to be an anime/manga fan, I highly doubt that this movement is going to get anywhere with him around.
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bossyman15
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oh yeah i mean NHK well later on it has (sorry forgot the name) a girl (i think a minor) being sexually touched by a main guy. it even show her tits. |
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Labbes
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Banning everything "without value" is rather ludicrous. Porn has no "value". Die Hard has no "value". I would even go as far as saying that according to this, even Pollock or Bach have no "value". Sure, you have to draw a line somewhere, but not with a pseudo-objective thing such as value. |
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Warstar77
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1. anime/manga/game companies will not allow it.
2. the anime/manga/games 3. there will be anime/manga/games fans and companies will protest for a silly ban thing such as Virtual Child Porn. 4. The anime/manga will protest to the ban and they will start filling major lawsuits against unicef japan for doing it in the first place. 5.The goverments of world wont allow this Virtual Child Porn ban allowed and goverment will think it is silly. my answer is that the Virtual Child Porn ban thing will not happen and anime/manga/games fans and companies will not allow the ban to happen UNCIEF japan vs anime/manga/games fans and companies and UNCIEF japan will lose |
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cetriya
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you know, I wonder. Does japan really have a low crime rate? or is it only low because not many actually report crimes because 'they dont want to make a scene" ?
I'd say this is something that is not just japan but world wide and not just including men who likes anime. After watching the documentary of Sex Slaves in America as much as I'd want to ban all perv things, no one realy cares for the children. They just want to have a reason to charge the 'business' with a fine. Why charge $5000 to a message poler with underage girls (who claim to be older) when you know they'll just kidnap more girls to make up the lost in profit or make their living conditions even worst. Lets not even start with the "every child that is reported missing just ran away instead of being kidnapped". |
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CCSYueh
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People argue it's not a real kid being harmed. That's true. Yeah, I don't see the sense in reading fantasy stuff of a sexual nature one can never act on (fanning the fires of one's desire as it were) & find it appauling, but it is indeed a slippery slope. I see it as pointless. But isn't MOST entertainment pointless? Something to fill the hours of a day. Yeah, we get some education out of it sometimes (maybe the hero has to save a life so we see CPR, etc) & of course the History Channel & Discover teach us stuff, but overall, there really is no value to any drama or comedy. Watching Lord of the Rings saves no one's live. We aren't better or worse for watching Smallville. And god knows I've seen more horror movies than I can count & have never, ever in my wildest dreams wanted to imitate Freddy Kruger or any other mass murderer in those shows. To be fair & honest, while I cannot say I approve of drawn art of a child in a sexual pose, I have to give the readers of it the same benefit I give myself when I watch violence because I know watching violence doesn't make me violent. I don't see it being licensed in the US, but I don't agree people should be jailed for possessing manga or anime they didn't make. Even if they DID make it, I thought we have the freedom in this country to express out ideas. Realistically, there's limits. I was highly offended when a pro-life group decided to parade around the mall I used to work at a couple decades ago with graphic pictures of aborted fetuses on the day Santa was scheduled to arrive. My daughter was offended by the woman who took it on herself to do a 1-woman version of this outside her high school last year. I don't expect someone to hand out copies of sexually explicit material to the under 10 crowd. The problem is, certain types do use broad brushes when they are spreading their bile. The Prop 8 people here are saying if we don't outlaw gay marriage & add an amendment to the California constitution that marriage is only between a man or a woman, next thing we know those damned gays will be marrying our 10 yr olds. Or animals. Every debate I've heard out of that side comes down to that--if 2 people of the same sex are allowed to marry, then next there will be bestiality & pedophilia on the streets daily. This is also basically the argument of the side trying to "Protect the children of the world by banning all forms of child porn" because they have nothing else to do. They've obviously not ended the market in Third World countries for underage sex. One would think the money they're putting into ending children in art portrayed in a sexual manner into saving those children actually being used for sex, but that's a harder battle. Their argument is the people reading these manga & stories are the ones taking vacations to buy a small boy to deflower, but it's mostly conjecture. Most people I know who possess material like that aren't going to admit they have it, so yeah, sure when they bust someone for doing these things, they have child porn. But how does one prove that 50% of the readers of this stuff do go buy a kid? I'd suspect it's more like under 25% that actually have the nerve to act on these desires because they do know how much they have to lose if they get caught. THen one can throw out the argument if even one child is hurt, then it all needs to be banned, but there isn really no way on this planet to make the world G-rated. We can't child-proof the world. |
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Warstar77
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guys with Taro Aso, happens to be an anime/manga fan and he will not let the moviement going any where and he's leader of japan and he will not allow it and ruin it for the people worldwide who love manga/anime/games. and anime/manga fans of japan and world will try to tell him to help stop the virtual child porn and he will got UNICEF of japan for try to take something away from the fans that they love |
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fighterholic
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We'll see what Taro Aso decides to do, but he can't go out of his way for everything for the otaku culture. Heck, I can see him saying something outright that will either get one side of the argument mad, or both sides. I think this is one, paranoia, two, starving the lions.
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testorschoice
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This is not neccessarily true, and Aso has even led an earlier forum that discussed measures against some kinds of manga. According to a Daily Yomiuri article that ANN linked to: animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-09-22/manga-fan-aso-chosen-to-be-japan-next-prime-minister http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/features/arts/20080919TDY13003.htm "But it cannot necessarily be said that Aso takes an accommodating view toward all kinds of manga. When lawmakers set up a forum in February 1991 to discuss "measures against pornographic and other harmful comics geared for children" amid moves to wipe out "hazardous" comics with sexual scenes in the early 1990s, for example, it was Mr. Rozen Aso who chaired the group. Regulations on child pornography of course need to be seriously debated, but Aso's position makes it easy to understand you cannot confidently assume that people who love manga or animation are always against putting restrictions on such modes of expression, or that those who hate them will always support such moves." |
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