Forum - View topicDNAngel or Gundam Seed, preferences???
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yoh
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Which one is overall better? I know they're different genres but...
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Tony K.
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I don't think it's fair to compare these 2 titles in particular. A lot of people either don't have access to fansubs or just don't have the money to buy the DVDs (bootlegs or otherwise).
I'm looking very forward to SEED in that I've heard a lot of good things about it. Can't say I know much about DNAngel though. As for preferences, Rurouni Kenshin is my favorite (subbed and NOT past episode 62). I also love Tsuioku-hen (a.k.a., the crappy and bastardizing misnomer "Samurai X: Trust & Betrayl") a lot. And I also think you should be more specific when asking a question like this. State which one you like and tell why. Then, maybe you'll get more replies. Oh, and welcome to the forum! 
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Rendart
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Wow , yeah those 2 titles are slightly out there ...
Depending on what you like, D.N.Angel is more appealing to me because of it's remarkable resamblance to chrono trigger (art wise). I dont know about Gundam , I couldnt get into any of the series that i have watched. -Rendart |
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Tony K.
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Not into Gundam eh? That's OK. But just to give you an idea, Gundam is a straight up military drama. Lots of mecha action, politics, drama, and some occasional deciet and betrayl from a few of the characters. I haven't seen all of them, but Wing is probably my favorite. Yes, most people say it stinks when compared to UC or that it's too long and boring, but for me, since it was the first Gundam series I ever watched, I hold a lot of respect for it in opening up the rest of the Gundam universe. What's DNAngel about? I've heard the name, but never heard the story. |
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nicoruchan
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I don't know anything about Gundam Seed but I can tell you a bit about DNAngel.
The story follows Niwa Daisuke, a 14 year old what just happens to transform into the phantom theif Dark. The plot essentially covers Daisuke getting to know himself and his relationship with Dark and the two Harada sisters Risa and Riku. Think adolescent boy trying to find himself and understand love while stealing artwork that have powers. (sorry for the horrible summary, I'm sure you can find a better one elsewhere  )
My take on it? I am a huge DNAngel manga fan, so of course I was excited when I heard an anime was coming out. Though it was amusing, it wasn't as good as the manga, understandably because the story had to be changed here and there and added to in order to make a 26 ep series that worked. The aspects of the manga that make it really enjoyable just weren't as prevalent in the anime so despite my love for the series, the anime didn't really cut it for me. There are other anime series in this type of genre that end up more engaging (stellvia, hana yori dango...*mind goes blank*). I wish I had seen some SEED to be able to give you a i'd-watch-this-again-over-that kind of answer. Hopefully it helps some though 
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littlegreenwolf
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Ehhh?
 Why the heck would someone compare those two?
Umm... well, I've been a long time fan of the manga of DNAngel, which is really great in art, story, and all the other stuff that makes it a worthwhile manga. The anime though... ugh. The DNAngel purist in me considered it an atrocity, and after that horrible episode with the unicorn things, episode 4 I believe, I vowed never to watch another episode. They just changed too much for me. ... Course people continue to claim it's a great anime... but... just don't read the manga before you watch the anime. Never saw Gundam Seed because I avoid the Gundam anime, but I've heard great things. I'd pick it over the DNAngel anime. |
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Nagisa
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If you'll look around the forum (as well as read the preview I posted on the front page of this site), you'll notice I've been giving Gundam SEED pretty much non-stop glowing praise for the past month or so after having recently completed it. I haven't seen D.N.Angel, but it'd have to be one hell of a series to top Gundam SEED, in my opinion (and reading up on it in ANN's Encyclopedia, it really doesn't sound much like it is).
But really, all depends on your taste. If you like epic mech war drama type series, then you'll enjoy SEED a lot more. If you're more for the apparently supernatural shoujo variety, then you'd probably skew more towards D.N.Angel. |
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king_micah
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DN Angel is well, interesting. It has a lot of Shonnen Ai moments, and the alter egos are very flamboyant. Fan girls coo over them.
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zaphdash
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I didn't get to watch much of D.N.Angel because I didn't really have time for it, but I saw a few episodes. I saw all of Gundam SEED, as well.
Overall, I enjoyed what I saw of D.N.Angel more. Gundam SEED was largely derivative, but D.N.Angel seemed much fresher -- perhaps because I don't watch many shows of that genre, or perhaps because it was genuinely original, I don't really know. Either way, it didn't feel as much like the same old as SEED did. For roughly half the show, SEED just plays out the same way as First Gundam, but more slowly; after that, it cobbles together the rest of its story from a variety of different older Gundam shows, but it's not really any more original. SEED does have some relatively exciting moments that could make it worth looking at once (although they can each be traced back to a similar event in a past show), but overall, it's nothing special. If I had seen more D.N.Angel and other similar shows, I could go into more depth about its own originality or lack thereof, but like I said, I don't typically watch that genre, so...it all seemed pretty new to me, but maybe it's not. On the whole I liked D.N.Angel more; it's a fairly simple show from what I saw, but it was enjoyable in its simplicity. It's just a fun show and doesn't try too hard to be anything more. Obviously, if you haven't seen previous Gundam shows, you're not going to care that everything in SEED has been done before. If you can get past the terrible character and mecha designs and the cast of mostly flat characters, maybe you'll enjoy it. Likewise, if you've seen lots of shows similar to D.N.Angel and it strikes you as being pretty much the same show you've seen several times in the past, maybe you won't like it. If you're one for deep and complex plots, there are better shows out there for you; SEED isn't really among them, but it would at least be the better of these two shows in that respect. So basically it all boils down to what you want. I liked D.N.Angel more, because on the few points where the two shows can really be compared, it comes out on top every time -- more interesting characters, more original story, better character designs, better music, etc. But if that genre just doesn't appeal to you, then it's not going to matter even if it's an absolute masterpiece. If I were you, I would rent/buy the first DVD of each show (neither is out yet, but both have been announced) and see which one you like more. |
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Nagisa
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Please don't assume that you can only enjoy SEED if you're a Gundam newbie. Who said you can't appreciate & adore the original series while still simply liking SEED more? Or am I just that bizarre? And who says a show has to be completely original to be good? Cowboy Bebop's basically a moody Lupin in space, while Naruto's just a generic children's shounen fighting show, yet they both receive immense amount of praise because they're both quality titles. Besides, SEED was meant to be a remake of the original series pretty much from the start. Of course there are going to be parallels between a remake and its original; we might as well say Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings is a pathetic ripoff of Tolkien's because they both involve short people traveling to a big mountain if we're going to accuse SEED of "unoriginality." Anyway, needless to say we strongly disagree, I respect you're right to your opinion (dunno if I can say it's mutual, I can't read your mind), and speaking with UC Gundam fanatics about SEED absolutely terrifies me (I've visited a few Gundam boards, and for some reason bringing up SEED is like a rabbi going to a Nazi rally in 1940s Berlin), so I'm just going to stop here. |
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Magister_L
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I've seen DNAngel before and I thought it was sort of crappy (I hope I'm not breaking any forum rules right there). Before DNAngel was licensed I would downloads fansub eps of it and the name looked appealing so I downloaded it. But when I started watching it, I thought the whole mental battle thing was sort of retarded, and other aspects of the anime. Some may like it, but although I've never seen Gundam SEED I would still recommend that since I thought DNAngel wasn't that great and I've heared many good things about Gundam SEED.
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Magister_L
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Sesshoumaru sama
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I've never seen DNAngel, just heard of the title. I can recomend watching or buying Gundam SEED when it comes out. I've seen all of SEED and its by far my favorite alternate timeline Gundam show.
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zaphdash
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Who said I was assuming that only Gundam newbies can enjoy SEED? I know people far better versed in Gundam than I -- even people who might be called "UC fanatics," at least insofar as they're big fans of the UC timeline -- who liked SEED. I was presenting a description of SEED and D.N.Angel from my perspective, one that prefers originality; thus, for me, SEED would have been better if it had been the first or second Gundam series I saw, rather than the very last. This doesn't necessarily apply to everyone; but this guy will know whether or not he cares about originality, so it wasn't really necessary for me to point out the obvious and say, "And if you don't mind unoriginality, you might enjoy the show anyway."
Neither one receives much praise from me -- and I was only presenting my own opinions here, not the general consenus -- because I don't particularly like Bebop and I never felt compelled to watch Naruto.
SEED was intended to be "Gundam for the 21st century," not necessarily a total remake of First Gundam. A straight up remake of First Gundam would mean reanimating and rerecording the original show. SEED was actually meant to be a *retelling* of the story, which is an important distinction to make. In my opinion, however, neither a retelling nor a remake is needed. First Gundam is fine the way it is. A remake would only serve to pacify kids who can't appreciate a good story and a good cast of characters, kids who only watch Gundam to see giant robots beating up on each other. These are the people who complain about First Gundam's dated animation and music; I have no interest in pandering to their shallow tastes. If they won't watch First Gundam as is, they won't watch it at all. A retelling could be good or bad, depending on how it's pulled off. Examining how a different set of characters might react to similar circumstances could be interesting; however, the fact remains that you're just taking the same story and using it again. It's the easiest possible way to milk a cash cow. The problem here is that, in my mind, SEED's cast wasn't all that interesting in the first place, so I don't care what happens to them or what they do. The other problem is, of course, that we already have one animated retelling of First Gundam: Gundam Wing. Regardless of the dubious quality of that show, I'd say one retelling is enough, but that's just my take. yoh asked for opinions, so I gave mine. My personal opinion was that SEED's characters were, on the whole, not all that interesting or engaging; that it's story brought nothing new to the table; that its mecha and character designs were ugly; that its music was pretty substandard for the most part, except for a few pieces of BGM that were introduced near the end; that its CG animation of action sequences looked horrible; and that its director is a total hack. If you disagree, then watch and enjoy the show. It's no skin off my back if you watch a show that I don't like. Doesn't bother me a damn bit. I was just offering my own thoughts on the show, and I've got no problem with you if you happen to disagree. For the record, I just want to clear one thing up: I'm not, by any means a "UC fanatic." Turn A Gundam and G Gundam would both rank in my top five Gundam series, because they both had pretty great casts (I don't care what anyone says, G Gundam, particularly near the end, has some of the best character interaction to be found in the entire Gundam franchise). Gundam X, although it wasn't that great, gets props for the cool idea behind it ("What if the One Year War had ended differently?"). But Wing and SEED are just rehashes of UC history, and in my mind, they don't display any redeeming qualities to recover from the fact that their stories are both "been there, done that." |
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Johnny
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haven't had the opportunity to watch DNAngel yet, but as far as Seed, i'd say it's probably the best series i've seen so far(seen the entire series(50 ep's) 4 times and counting) so i would recommend it to anyone who's into gundam or just plain old mecha carnage
//Johnny |
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