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Yttrbio
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:55 pm
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It's what happens when you need to do power creep, but unfortunately chose an ordering system with a clear top value.
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Blood-
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:21 pm
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So if you did a power creep with S-rank, that would mean SS-rank?
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Er, maybe not.
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Alan45
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 8:18 am
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I considered the possibility that S stood for "Super". Then I thought that's kind of tacky, they wouldn't would they....??
Edit: from Wikipedia
Quote: | S-rank is a ranking classification that may refer to:
A ranking originating from academic grading in Japan used to describe a level superlative to grades such as A, B, etc.; it may be used in real or fictional tournaments or ranking lists such as in martial arts, fights in fiction, video games or in tier lists.
The term "S" tier may stand for "Special", "Super", or the Japanese word for "Exemplary" (秀, shū). |
Apparently everything is explained on the interwebs if you can figure out the right question.
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Blood-
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2025 10:19 am
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That certainly explains a lot, Alan45. All my life people have been telling me to "shoo-shoo" and I always thought they were telling me to go away, but it turns out they were merely saying I was exemplary. Kinda weird they were speaking Japanese to do it, but whatevs.
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Edjwald
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 5:30 pm
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@Blood - they were probably emphatically agreeing with you when they gave you the middle finger too, Slavic style. Shoo! Shoo!
I thought the moment when Alina said that she would rather forsake the festival than see Silver Sword die was a pretty significant moment of character growth, a sign that she's throwing off some of the misanth(koff) slightly immature and anti-social impulses that come from being isolated and stressed out.
- Alina was pretty adorbs while enjoying the festival. It's too bad somebody can't take her to visit Japan while she's sleeping.
- Once again, proof that nobody in an anime wearing a jester's cap and a mask is up to any good.
- I don't know who the voice actor who was portraying...Heitz? the guy with glasses was, but man, that actor is good at portraying douchebags in dire need of an @$$ kicking. Once he starts monologuing with that derisive tone, it's like the sneering equivalent of nails on a chalkboard.
- I hope they have some good catharsis for the cleric and her identity crisis next episode whether its realistic or not. Three episodes in, it's a plot dynamic that I'm getting pretty tired of.
The sludge twins seem to indicate that different dark gods will be different kinds of challenges, which is encouraging. One of them seems distinctly less hostile. I wonder if she'll be a weakness, or if it'll be one of those situations like in Dogma where the mild mannered one of a duo turns out to be the true psycho.
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Blood-
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:09 pm
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Episode 7
I was glad to see that Alina got to enjoy some of the Festival before it was inevitably interrupted. She didn't even seem particularly bothered about the "date" with Jade except for the awkwardness over holding hands. Agree about being done with the "I suck so bad" cleric storyline. Clearly Dark Gods are going to be a thorn in Alina's side.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:15 pm
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#7
The opening scene might mean something, but it's obscure to me at present. Why would the guild master accept a recognised secret quest giving item from the head of the information guild, send it to the bottom of the dungeon and then the heralds of the dark god conveniently know where the book is and free their erstwhile companion saying they have orders to do so? If the guild master is involved in this, what's his motive?
Alina does get to enjoy the festival she failed to experience years ago, which supposedly granted her the warhammer of doom from the goddess during the festival. I have to hand it to her; binge eating to relieve stress and all of it goes towards her figure and brain. I suppose going on the occasional boss killing side-job has the side effect of adding extra exercise to her daily routine to burn off the calories. There's no romantic chance for Jade even with this week, since Alina feels more obligated to him for getting her out of overtime hell so she feels she has to accept his request to hold hands rather than do it because she wants to reciprocate his feelings. His chances aren't zero yet; the more they fight together the more likely she'll see him as something other than an obnoxious stalker.
Considering he wants to destroy the unfair world which granted him a skill with unparalleled mobility, it's perhaps unsurprising he accepted his fate at the hands of the pair of dark gods. I suppose if adventurers in this franchise despair enough, they will go out in their vision of a blaze of glory in service of the dark gods because it's better to watch the world burn from the beyond. Needless to say, those who benefit from the world's status quo (Silver Sword, Alina to a lesser extent) find this mindset an absolute pain to deal with and have to clean up after the mess. Unlike the first dark god Alina could simply pummel to oblivion, there's a gimmick to this pair preventing them from taking damage. For the first time, Alina will have to properly cooperate with her companions if they want to leave the dungeon alive. The emphasis on living together as a pair reminds me of a certain dark souls 3 boss, so if the gimmick is the same then Lowe is going to be crucial as he is likely the only one with the right tool to unlock their defences.
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Edjwald
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:29 am
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Personally, my first instinct against something like the sludge twins would be to try extreme temperatures. Well, my first instincts would probably be to whimper and crap my pants, but hopefully I'd resist them.
("Oh shit!" the adult diaper for adventurers...)
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:06 am
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A bit late with my reaction but I am also glad that there was a bit of time to enjoy the festival before the chaos. It is nice to see Alina experience some fun and not only deal with overtime and gods from the past. Speaking of the latter, since they are technically one being split up I assume that the key might be to take both out at the same time. With their regeneration I do not really see another weakness right now. I also agree that the cleric storyline has not been amazing.
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 1:36 pm
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The ending of episode 8 had me do a double take since it very much felt like a fitting place to end the season. After all, Alina has made new friends/comrades, has enjoyed part of the festival and has now moved past the Shroud situation. She even has more positive feelings when it comes to Jade.
Besides the ending there was the fight and the end to the Lululee storyline and I have a bit of mixed feelings about both. The latter has some payoff but not enough given the time invested in it. As for the fight: it was exciting and the solution to win was both simpler and more difficult than I expected but it felt a bit lacking compared to the previous dark god. Maybe that is supposed to be the point given that the dark god only had one skill to make use of.
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Edjwald
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 6:24 pm
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smurky turkey wrote: | The ending of episode 8 had me do a double take since it very much felt like a fitting place to end the season. . |
I had the same thought. Presumably, it marks where a light novel or manga ended. I'm just as glad they didn't try to stretch what we got for 4 or 5 more episodes in order to end on that point though.
smurky turkey wrote: | Besides the ending there was the fight and the end to the Lululee storyline and I have a bit of mixed feelings about both. The latter has some payoff but not enough given the time invested in it. |
That subplot was like a bone caught in the show's throat, and I'm just glad they finally dry heaved it out.
Me, I thought this episode was strong all around. I got tense when I was supposed to get tense. I got the feels when I was supposed to get the feels. And when the feels got a little too touchy feely, the show even remembered that it was a comedy and broke the tension.
Plus, I like the way Alina is slowly dragging herself out of a slump she didn't even realize she was in.
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Harleyquin
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:08 pm
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#8
Although it's been the toughest battle faced by Alina and company to date, it turns out many of these "Dark Gods" may have gimmicks, once figured out they give adventurers a fighting chance for victory should they have the skills for it. In this case Jade managed to figure out their secret: so long as they function as a pair they are effectively immortal. Provoke them enough to take up their true form and it increases their attack power but at the cost of their immortality. All it takes after that is for Alina to do her usual and it's game over.
You have to hand it to Jade. Lovestruck as he is, he (and his party) are most likely the only adventurers alive who can use their skills in this composite manner. The price paid is huge, and Jade has been brought to death's door more often than he would like. But inspiring Lululee to do the same with her healing skills and bringing Alina back from almost certain death made the hard work pay off. So much so they didn't even need their teammate Lowe to contribute as his magic wasn't really required against the combined form. With this clutch save, Lululee hopefully won't have further nightmares about her past failures and that will give her more self-confidence for whatever challenges she and her teammates will face.
Whatever Alina might say to the contrary, I don't think she's told anyone about Shroud since he passed on. If not a sign of affection, she trusts Jade enough to open up to him. If she was feeling unconsciously lonely up to this point, she shouldn't anymore now that she's effectively an honorary member of Jade's guild.
The main storyline hasn't ended (after all they've only beaten the second out of numerous dark gods trying to eat adventurers), but it looks like next week is the start of something new (and most likely silly). Alina has been employed for three years but has never gone for new joiner training?! What kind of organization gets away with such blasphemy?
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Blood-
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 8:22 pm
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I wish shows that feature OP MCs would learn a thing or two from shows like this. From a story standpoint, isn't it more satisfying to watch characters struggle to achieve something rather than just have it handed to them on a silver platter? I mean, I get it: OP shows replace the emotional catharsis of watching a character triumph after overcoming hardships with the wish fulfillment of watching a character glide through challenges with the greatest of ease. It's one type of story num-num versus another. For me, it's no contest which type I prefer.
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Cam0
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Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2025 10:11 pm
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Yeah, I've been surprised that this show, another fantasy light novel adaption where the protag is given an extremely powerful ability out of the blue, actually has the protag struggle instead of effortlessly defeating everything without much effort. Alina doesn't just struggle in battles, she has actual flaws that hold her back. She is not very clever, she just takes on problems head on without much thinking and that causes issues for her. Alina's kinda bullheaded personality is really likeable too. I just love her "screw this, I'm smashing it with my hammer" energy. Helps that she is voiced by Rie Takahashi, who I think is doing a great job voicing her.
I dare say this is a fun show it is. I oddly like the ending theme too.
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Alan45
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2025 6:40 pm
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@smurky turkey
You hit it. Episode 8 ends at the same point as volume 2 of the light novel. They are running 4 episodes to a volume. They did simplify a bit (they left stuff out) but didn't change the story much.
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