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WANNFH
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:25 am
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*sigh* And that is why we cannot have a good things. Gotta guess it totally have nothing with the "fraudulent use" rather than the long time issues with payment processors - along with the serious price difference because of weak yen, so a lot of games on Japanese e-store actually cost way less than in US/EU.
Guess it's time to switch up to only overpriced physical releases for the exclusive to Japan games - if there will be a physical release.
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Thespacemaster
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:26 am
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very selfish not to allow payments from overseas over what cause they are slightly cheaper than use local services? it is still money and somewhat xenophobic if u ask me.
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medicinodestiny
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:52 am
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WANNFH wrote: | *sigh* And that is why we cannot have a good things. Gotta guess it totally have nothing with the "fraudulent use" rather than the long time issues with payment processors - along with the serious price difference because of weak yen, so a lot of games on Japanese e-store actually cost way less than in US/EU. |
Nintendo's also been blocking the western releases of certain games as of last year so I imagine it's also to stop westerners from being able to buy and play all the games they're trying to hide away from us.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:07 am
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You can still also just buy Japanese eShop credit manually & add it to your account, so it's not like it's now impossible to ever buy anything from the JP eShop if you don't live in Japan.
Personally, that's how I've always been doing it since the beginning, and I honestly forgot that you could even directly connect a "foreign" payment option to a JP Switch account in the first place.
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WANNFH
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:13 am
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medicinodestiny wrote: | Nintendo's also been blocking the western releases of certain games as of last year so I imagine it's also to stop westerners from being able to buy and play all the games they're trying to hide away from us. |
That's not even a 1%, honestly.
The reason of paying way more for the games though clearly is - especially considering Japanese e-store (because of weak yen again) is one of the best regions to acquire a lot of games, especially Nintendo own exclusives - and for even more when the Ninty games itself nearly non-existant to be on sale.
Now the options for non-Japanese residents (because in no way people can get a credit card as non-citizen/long time resident) are only tied between buying physical releases - or buying extremely overpriced prepaid cards for the wallet (which is honestly freaking disgusting with the pricing of major resellers - as for example the 9000 yen card, which is usually enough to buy one game outside of few cases while 5k yen is rarely enough, cost ~68 USD/Euro - which in real money actually equal friggin 11k yen, so now you gonna pay ~20% extra just for nothing but a purchasing code from the store).
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R. Kasahara
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:33 am
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I agree that the weak yen has a lot to do with this. I've imported several physical Switch games these past few years, and it's startling how much cheaper they can be (before shipping, anyway, but sometimes even afterwards).
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Greed1914
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:44 am
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WANNFH wrote: |
medicinodestiny wrote: | Nintendo's also been blocking the western releases of certain games as of last year so I imagine it's also to stop westerners from being able to buy and play all the games they're trying to hide away from us. |
That's not even a 1%, honestly.
The reason of paying way more for the games though clearly is - especially considering Japanese e-store (because of weak yen again) is one of the best regions to acquire a lot of games, especially Nintendo own exclusives - and for even more when the Ninty games itself nearly non-existant to be on sale.
Now the options for non-Japanese residents (because in no way people can get a credit card as non-citizen/long time resident) are only tied between buying physical releases - or buying extremely overpriced prepaid cards for the wallet (which is honestly freaking disgusting with the pricing of major resellers - as for example the 9000 yen card, which is usually enough to buy one game outside of few cases while 5k yen is rarely enough, cost ~68 USD/Euro - which in real money actually equal friggin 11k yen, so now you gonna pay ~20% extra just for nothing but a purchasing code from the store). |
I do think this has to do with regional pricing and/or exchange rates. I've seen different games that were trendy for streamers that were only available on the Japanese eshop, which they easily got around by making a separate account. The inconvenience wasn't enough to stop people, so now they've shifted to a way to keep it local.
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Asrialys
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:51 am
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I thought they stopped taking foreign cards (at least any of my US cards) long ago? I was able to buy some game LE and Joy-Con some years ago, but haven't been able to buy anything else since then. For games, I now have to buy points on Amazon.
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PipimiOden
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:52 am
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wait, they accepted overseas payment methods in the first place? I've only heard of people using prepaid cards on the japanese eshop, not just using an overseas credit card or paypal (._.)
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An Unchosen One
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:23 am
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Most Japanese shops don't accept overseas payments, so if anything, Nintendo allowing players outside Japan to buy anything on the eShop is very unusual to begin with.
Anyway, Google also cited fraud when restricting payment by region, but with there being no apparent ways to do anything similar through the eShop, the yen being as weak as it's been lately is probably a decent guess, though I've also seen some suggest that US credit card companies and Trump's proposed policies may also be to blame.
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JustMonika
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:18 am
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Thank goodness for PlayAsia and eBay.
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Vanadise
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:24 pm
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JustMonika wrote: | Thank goodness for PlayAsia and eBay. |
I cannot discourage using PlayAsia strongly enough for reasons I won't get into here in order to not derail the thread, and you will get exploited by scalpers if you're buying imported goods off of eBay.
You can get much better deals if you use a proxy shopping service like Japan Rabbit or Buyee or From Japan to buy directly from Japanese stores, or use stores that just ship internationally like CDJapan or Amazon.co.jp.
But this is really annoying if you like buying games digitally, which is so convenient because it was easy to just add a JP account on your Switch and buy games from the JP store...
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Avec ou Nous
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:14 pm
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Vanadise wrote: |
JustMonika wrote: | Thank goodness for PlayAsia and eBay. |
I cannot discourage using PlayAsia strongly enough for reasons I won't get into here in order to not derail the thread, and you will get exploited by scalpers if you're buying imported goods off of eBay. |
The advantage of PlayAsia is they have Hong Kong/Asia English copies of games.
It's also easy not to get exploited on eBay by just not buying outrageously priced listings.. You can find plenty of cheap Japanese games on eBay although I mostly use it for older games. If you want modern Japanese games you can just get them off Amazon Japan. eBay might have a few good deals on shipping though and without the need to pay for a proxy shipping service. I've only really used proxy shipping for Japanese auction sites
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ZiharkXVI
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:25 pm
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Avec ou Nous wrote: |
Vanadise wrote: |
JustMonika wrote: | Thank goodness for PlayAsia and eBay. |
I cannot discourage using PlayAsia strongly enough for reasons I won't get into here in order to not derail the thread, and you will get exploited by scalpers if you're buying imported goods off of eBay. |
The advantage of PlayAsia is they have Hong Kong/Asia English copies of games.
It's also easy not to get exploited on eBay by just not buying outrageously priced listings.. You can find plenty of cheap Japanese games on eBay although I mostly use it for older games. If you want modern Japanese games you can just get them off Amazon Japan. eBay might have a few good deals on shipping though and without the need to pay for a proxy shipping service. I've only really used proxy shipping for Japanese auction sites |
I use playasia all the time for physical copies that never come to the west (or are delayed years). I've never had any real issues with it, so I have no idea what the original post is talking about.
If Nintendo wants to make this difficult they could always go back to region locking - stupid though I think it is.
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Asrialys
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:46 pm
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Vanadise wrote: | But this is really annoying if you like buying games digitally, which is so convenient because it was easy to just add a JP account on your Switch and buy games from the JP store... |
It still is if you buy eShop points from Amazon Japan and then apply them to your Japanese Nintendo account. Unless they'll also be geolocking accounts, this method should still work.
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