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Juno016



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:59 pm Reply with quote
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Cietan Kitney, President of Visa Worldwide Japan, confirmed in December that while Visa wants to make its payment service available to legal and legitimate products and services as much as possible, it may sometimes decline purchases to "protect the brand."


Protect the brand from what? Gooners?

This really does sound like some deliberate effort behind the scenes trying to pressure these companies with $$$ in order to get content they don't like off the internet. Still no idea who is behind this current wave, though.
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XSp



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Bad sign of western centered religious zealotry puritanism affecting global markets.
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Greed1914



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:11 pm Reply with quote
Juno016 wrote:
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Cietan Kitney, President of Visa Worldwide Japan, confirmed in December that while Visa wants to make its payment service available to legal and legitimate products and services as much as possible, it may sometimes decline purchases to "protect the brand."


Protect the brand from what? Gooners?

This really does sound like some deliberate effort behind the scenes trying to pressure these companies with $$$ in order to get content they don't like off the internet. Still no idea who is behind this current wave, though.


Pretty much. It's pretty obvious what is happening, but why anybody cares is beyond me. How somebody else uses their credit card is about as far removed from the list of genuine things to worry about as it gets.
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Hopeless Weeb



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XSp wrote:
Bad sign of western centered religious zealotry puritanism affecting global markets.


What other buzzwords caused this situation?
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Nayrael



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XSp wrote:
Bad sign of western centered religious zealotry puritanism affecting global markets.


Nah, it was decades since the religious groups had this amount of authority over media. Most people calling for end of "Sex Sells" today are ironically antireligious as it comes.

Westerners hate this tend as well which is leading to Corpos massively losing money, and the trend had finally started to collapse in 2024. Hopefully it won't be much long before the corpos return to just selling what sells and stop using Twitter's echo chambers for market research.
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FishLion



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:06 pm Reply with quote
Greed1914 wrote:
Pretty much. It's pretty obvious what is happening, but why anybody cares is beyond me. How somebody else uses their credit card is about as far removed from the list of genuine things to worry about as it gets.


That part's easy, they don't like it. Busybodies know that porn companies don't care about selling porn, so you attack the thing businesses need on an existential level and blame them for it. Saying "Visa makes a ton of money off of porn, including isn't that disgusting" is much simpler and more effective way to limit content than convincing a nation to change laws to target the businesses you don't like. Such people generally don't have enough going on if they are so concerned about people buying porn from across the ocean.

Nayrael wrote:
Nah, it was decades since the religious groups had this amount of authority over media. Most people calling for end of "Sex Sells" today are ironically antireligious as it comes.

Westerners hate this tend as well which is leading to Corpos massively losing money, and the trend had finally started to collapse in 2024. Hopefully it won't be much long before the corpos return to just selling what sells and stop using Twitter's echo chambers for market research.


I especially hate when twitter echo chambers form a well oiled machine to harass companies for selling porn, just read the history section, the religious have nothing to do with it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation
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Thulebox



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:21 pm Reply with quote
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I especially hate when twitter echo chambers form a well oiled machine to harass companies for selling porn, just read the history section, the religious have nothing to do with it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation


I hope this was sarcasm(the juxtaposition is too on the nose) right? As the history section you're pointing to says three New York City clergymen founded the movement and a Catholic church guy was the face of the group. But we all know religious movement's have never been at the forefront of puritanical agenda's Laughing
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FishLion



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Thulebox wrote:
FishLion wrote:


I especially hate when twitter echo chambers form a well oiled machine to harass companies for selling porn, just read the history section, the religious have nothing to do with it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation


I hope this was sarcasm(the juxtaposition is too on the nose) right? As the history section you're pointing to says three New York City clergymen founded the movement and a Catholic church guy was the face of the group. But we all know religious movement's have never been at the forefront of puritanical agenda's Laughing


Oops, wrong link, try this one?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/pornhub-blocked-us-states-age-verification-b2679211.html

All cheek aside, I have given my diatribe about this enough to where people don't want to hear it, said organizations have a history of convincing members to harass credit card companies into enforcing much stricter antipornography rules, I think that is most logically lead to Visa shutting down Japanese websites whether it was an internal decision to avoid future controversy or the direct result of harassment by such organizations.

It's hard not to gently tease the people who like to blame twitter or culture changing or leftists or "woke" as the issue when there is a well oiled harassment machine founded and run by Christians right over there who explicitly state it as their goal.
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