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EP. REVIEW: Shangri-La Frontier Season 2

Episode 36 was pretty solid. A deeply needed bit of texture for spoiler[stalker girl's character, and her relationship with Sunraku], and it's fun spoiler[seeing our original colossus back in action, and learning a bit more about its combat patterns.] The scene with spoiler[the SF Zoo leader dying did remind me why I almost always wish these kinds of virtual-world series were instead set in the real world -- that extended death scene could have been gutting, but knowing it's just an avatar takes the oomph out of it.] Surprised that spoiler[you can entirely incapacitate even major boss mobs purely through debuffs; most games go out of their way to limit how effective debuffs can be. Though, I suppose SLF colossi bosses are broken in enough ways that it doesn't really matter.]

NeverConvex wrote:

Episode 36 was pretty solid. A deeply needed bit of texture for spoiler[stalker girl's character, and her relationship with Sunraku], and it's fun spoiler[seeing our original colossus back in action, and learning a bit more about its combat patterns.] The scene with spoiler[the SF Zoo leader dying did remind me why I almost always wish these kinds of virtual-world series were instead set in the real world -- that extended death scene could have been gutting, but knowing it's just an avatar takes the oomph out of it.] Surprised that spoiler[you can entirely incapacitate even major boss mobs purely through debuffs; most games go out of their way to limit how effective debuffs can be. Though, I suppose SLF colossi bosses are broken in enough ways that it doesn't really matter.]

yea that would never happen!

i mean take a look at pve games like destiny 2, path of exile or diablo 4!

especially the former which have immobilizing debuffs like stasis and strand!

there would be zero chance bungie or any gaming company will allow a debuff to completely incapacitate an actual raid or dungeon boss like you would do on a regular ad!

that type of ability would be a balancing nightmare for any dev team! especially if the game have both pvp and pve in it!

Vow of Silence can completely trivialize Aldrich in Dark Souls 3 and he's a major boss to say nothing of the Margit and Mohg Shackles in Elden Ring where with proper prep you can easily one-shot them. Cheesing bosses with strats like this has been a thing for ages. As an aside, I MASSIVELY disagree with NeverConvex's opinion about virtual series death thing.

that much i know. D2 players like me always use cheese strats in raid bosses until the devs eventually nerfs it and those strats for dark souls 3 & elden ring bosses have already been nerfed accourding to those twitch streamers!

but what im talking about using an actual move in an IRL game boss that animalia used on the night emperor aka using an abilty to paralyze a boss ala hand of tartarus!

the chances any game ever have a weapon/staff with the same ability as animalia's underworld key is very unlikely to occur!

Question: Does Sunraku actually knows Psyger is a woman or a dub thing?...I hope they don't do the "You are a girl!?" scene later, it will be awkward.

jr240483 wrote:

that much i know. D2 players like me always use cheese strats in raid bosses until the devs eventually nerfs it and those strats for dark souls 3 & elden ring bosses have already been nerfed accourding to those twitch streamers! but what im talking about using an actual move in an IRL game boss that animalia used on the night emperor aka using an abilty to paralyze a boss ala hand of tartarus! the chances any game ever have a weapon/staff with the same ability as animalia's underworld key is very unlikely to occur!

It used to be fairly common in FFXI. The Chainspell + Stun strategy was often used in boss fights to lock up the monster at key points, or it could even help turn a battle around if things went unexpectedly sideways. The biggest drawback was that it had a 2 hour cool down.

I've never heard of that strat and i played like over 80+ hrs of FF 11 when i had it on the ps4!

if it was that easy & well known of, everyone would be talking about it and use it against all bosses, including the zodiacs bosses or even vayne the undying!

It was more in line with the EverQuest style of MMOs, so support class actions and crowd control were taken into consideration for the fight mechanics. Stunning was a very common tactic, particularly in harder boss fights because full alliance wipes were a real possibility without it.

In what sense is he a thief?

borisdrakoni wrote:

It was more in line with the EverQuest style of MMOs, so support class actions and crowd control were taken into consideration for the fight mechanics. Stunning was a very common tactic, particularly in harder boss fights because full alliance wipes were a real possibility without it.

CC was extremely important throughout EQ, but stun was often explicitly disabled on boss mobs (though slows, cripples, etc were, on the other hand, critical; and, stun could still be extremely important for adds, and useful as an aggro-generator even on mobs it could not actually stun).

That's actually where my original reaction to what amounted to the SLF guild stunning Lycagon came from (though maybe it seems somewhat more plausible after the reveal that it was a clone). Not familiar with FF11, though; curious to hear something almost exactly like this would have been possible there.

I knew he was gonna get the Fool Arcana, Japan loves to link that arcana to Main Characters and thief-class characters, which Sunraku technically is.