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malvarez1
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Oh neat, I didn’t realize there would get reviewed.
I’m also a bit mixed on the concept, but if any arc needed a remaster, it’s definitely this one. |
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Iritscen
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I thought this arc was the least enjoyable of the series the first time around, but I'm intrigued by the idea of a "DB Kai" version. I'm eager to see if this shortened version plays better. If the whole show was retroactively trimmed in this way it would make the series vastly more accessible to newcomers. I constantly have people tell me that they're hesitant to get on the One Piece train because of how many episodes it has.
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MyMasterMatthew
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Yeah, if I were to recommend One Piece to someone, I'd probably encourage them to watch the original anime for Fishman Island, flaws and all, over the remaster. Perhaps I'd reconsider if / when they do this for every post-timeskip arc, but I feel like the "fixed" pacing and change in animation style would be jarring if you went from pre-timskip to remastered Fishman Island and then back to regular One Piece. I guess you'd eventually return to the updated animation style, but the pacing would still be iffy. I'm also of the opinion that there's something endearing about the original, especially when you don't have to wait week-to-week for new episodes (until you get live, that is). I'm still in the middle of trying to catch up with both the manga and anime following a self-imposed hiatus, so I won't be tuning in for this remaster, but I wish everyone a happy journey. I still feel like a complete production hiatus would have been better, but I'm glad the anime has finally taken a break.
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Daidan12
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There were some editing mistakes that I really wonder how they could even happen:
- Fake Nami just teleports to Real Nami's side before Ussop's intro Also, even though I loved the ED, I think a proper full We Go!!! version was the way to huh.. go as faithfully as posible to the original run (they could have just remade the original OP with the new art instead of having to make a new one). Still I have to admit that I loved how fast this was after many, many years of dealing with the 1 or less than 1 chapter per episode. I lost it at Chopper thinking that Luffy just got a little fat or that Sanji was ok with Zoro going to Fishman Island on the wrong ship. Also, I really miss the New World base outfits for the Strawhats, Nami's jeans + bikini combo has aged better than I thought (I remember the outrage when it was revealed), I am a little less entusiastic of the weird leather jacket that Robin has, but she will get the superior outfit by Dressrosa's Special Edit Version. |
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#Droneku
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The flow of the scenes in this one is trash, is literally a clip show at times, the most obvious example is the teleporting Nami impostor.
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Matros
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Re-editing 2.5 original episodes into 1 is a bit too extreme, it perfectly shows that modern battle shonen pacing doesn't quite work with One Piece. The content is just too dense, you need some moments to breath, there's lack of build up and impact with pacing like this.
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Matros
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The point of this remaster is to give FI a visual overhaul, so if they're gonna do it again arcs like Punk Hazard and Dressrosa will get the same treatment. Heavily depends on Fuji TV and what they'll allow. (Dressrosa is very long) And I'd argue the pacing in here is more iffy than in the regular anime, the staff have learned to take advantage of the limited adaptation rate. They show things that Oda off screened, implied or skipped. This feels just a bit too rushed with bizzare transitions and cuts. But I'm still glad this side project exists. The show's production values nowadays are so high it's understandable the staff want to keep delivering such quality, not to mention the fact that they aren't working on this, it's a separate team. And to end this on a positive note, this remaster has lots of great character art corrections. Last edited by Matros on Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:12 am; edited 1 time in total |
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BadNewsBlues
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Even if you were to trim a lot of the fat you’d likely at minimum would still be looking at a 500-700 episode series. |
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Fluwm
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I don't think there's any theoretical cut of OP that's even slightly more accessible to newcomers. Anything over 100 epiosdes is gonna be a hard sell.
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James02
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Putting "The One Piece" by Wit Studio into this. It depends on when you start. If newcomers would start it when it starts or close to that, then the eventual 100's of episodes won't feel like a lot. Of course it's too late to say that about the original series. |
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Matros
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The big misconception is that people think Wit of all studios will remake the whole series. Even the president of the studio, George Wada, already implied that they only intend to cover the 4:3 era episodes. Not to mention the fact that the current VAs are aging, Mayumi Tanaka will be 70 in a few months. She ain't gonna do arcs like Dressrosa at the age of 90. Then there are Wit's commitment issues. They get cold feet when the content becomes too demanding. (AoT, Vinland) Fuji TV and Toei are doing this remaster for a reason. Both of them are funding Wit's project. Last edited by Matros on Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:10 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Blaze_1013
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Yea, while I enjoy the faster pacing, it certainly felt too fast at times. People have already brought up the teleporting fake Nami and cutting the scene of her pointing the gun at Nami but we also had fake Robin not being show as kicking fake Chopper which means you lose the actual context for why it's suddenly biting her when she approaches Chopper. Past that we also had actual cuts from the source material. Luffy is supposed to be shown parting ways with Boa and it's a nice moment for Luffy's character, he doesn't say goodbye because he always plans to see people again. Plus we lose the explanation for Luffy's giant backpack and the joke about how overstuffed it was originally. We also lost the joke of Robin meeting Frankie and having a long pause between seeing him and saying he hasn't changed, something that was in the manga even if the original adaptation overstretched the scene.
They were adapting 6 extra pages of content compared to a normal Jump chapter so hopefully the issues are just for this episode and they can find their footing as the special goes along. None of the problems are enough to make me say to skip this if someone is going through the series for the first time since the visual upgrade and saving 30 episodes of content is worth it imo, but if this is about what we can expect from the re-edit I'm nowhere near as enthusiastic about recommending it over the original. That certainly has a ton of issues, but this won't be a 100% upgrade.
I actually hadn't even considered this when I was thinking of how the anime would flow without needing to worry about catching up to the manga. One Piece is indeed super dense and while not every chapter has infinite information in each panel some certainly do and the series is certainly one of the few that could get away with adapting 1 chapter an episode sometimes. |
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James02
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Only 4:3 episodes? That's only 206 episodes of the original series! I don't know where you got that information but I'll take your word for it for now. Anyway, I really don't expect the current VAs to be doing working on The One Piece. And the reason for that is because they don't have to be the ones. I mean, they really don't. I hope they don't (not that I that they're bad). |
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Lord Starfish
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From the first episode... I'm not impressed. This was massively overcompressed in a way that harmed the flow of scenes far worse than the original's slow pace. And like... they were cutting lines in the middle of scenes, outright deleting info that was there in the manga. Like, right at the start, the part where Luffy mentions that Rayleigh left him alone half a year ago since he'd finished learning all the Haki stuff Rayleigh wanted to teach him is gone, with the only thing remaining of that tidbit being a mention from Rayleigh himself that "I haven't seen Luffy in half a year". Or how that scene also cuts the final punchline of Sanji hearing Rayleigh's mention of "growth" and immediately jumps to "I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW NAMI HAS GROWN!" (Admittedly I don't like how Sanji was written in this part even in the manga so personally I don't much mind his perviness being toned down.) Also the scene with Chopper and the fake Straw Hats completely cuts any instances of Fake Luffy even acknowledging Chopper, and also Fake Robin kicking the fox away which in turn means said fox biting her in the head comes completely out of nowhere.
...Admittedly, this episode covers two full chapters, and the first of them was an extra long one (24 pages rather than the usual 16-18) with a lot of detail crammed into it. So hopefully this extremely disjointed pacing is not what we'll be looking at for the whole thing. Because I do think the idea of a more compressed One Piece anime is a good one, but... it needs to be done carefully and so far, this episode was not that. |
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