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Edjwald
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:04 am
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I'm one of the rare deviants who didn't like the first episode of Delicious in Dungeon and then cycled off Netflix swearing to give it another chance someday, but I have found myself flashing back to Campfire Cooking in Another World, an anime about using monster ingredients for Japanese recipes that grew on me and became one of the few foodie shows I watched all the way through. Come to think of it, I think I read somewhere that it's getting a season 2...
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:59 am
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While I did not fall in love with the first episode of Dungeon Meshi it did hook me after a few more and has not let me go since. I am a sucker for a dungeon as the setting and especially so if the show tries something fresh/interesting. You may indeed want to try it again later Edjwald, especially since Meshi and Campfire Cooking are not that different in how they approach food and the enjoyment of it.
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:26 pm
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While Dungeon People is a chill show most of the time some of the episodes/segments very much remind you that the dungeon is not a kind place. The way the invader was dealt with (in brutal fashion) made that clear but the explanation about the recycling of corpses was also a tad dark. I was worried that Clay might find her father as a zombie on the lower floors for a moment but the show was quick to address that.
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 3:18 pm
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I think that the show is making me look at dungeons differently as time goes on, especially so after episode 8. Things like designing the dungeon and being lazy with parts of that, adding unique gimmicks plus using the boss door as a waiting sign... it makes for fascinating material.
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:44 am
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Episode 8
I agree. It's a brilliant premise. We've all seen a ton of fantasy shows with dungeons, but we just take the dungeons for granted. The genius of this show is posing the question... if dungeons really existed, how would they actually be created and maintained? As this show has proven over 8 episodes so far, there is a ton of content that can be mined from that simple idea.
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Edjwald
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2024 7:22 am
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Yah, I think it's a different approach and pretty refreshing to watch too. The thing that struck me while watching the last episode was how this scenario would be the wet dream of anyone who's designed dungeons for an RPG table top game. It reminds me a little of a Korean web novel called Dungeon Defense though this anime is more centered on the nuts and bolts and ramifications of day to day dungeon operating, which is part of its appeal.
I am a little curious about what kind of being the DM is here.
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 4:14 pm
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Another interesting bit was added to the dungeon lore this week, the dungeon truly is connected to many facets of the kingdom it is located in. It keeps the nearby town and its citizens alive economical wise, has ties to the guild and even a contract with royalty with them plus some trading/selling
As for the fight: nice try yet not nearly good enough.
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Edjwald
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2024 3:36 pm
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This contract arena was a fun episode on several levels. As much as I've enjoyed the behind the scene explanation of the dungeon mechanics, it was was in danger of becoming formulaic. It was cool watching the show step out of that comfort zone and flex a little. I was also entertained watching the MCs acting out of their comfort zone Bellehara trying to be a soul crushing symbol of fear and looking cute and hapless while administering a beatdown.. Clay decked out as a maid and trying to be unobtrusive. Fun stuff.
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smurky turkey
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:08 pm
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Another interesting episode this week, though it left me with two things I am unsure about. First is the main conflict surrounding Clay's adoptive father. The hints about him and how far he has gotten in the dungeon, his nickname that does not fit his usual fighting style... something is up and I am unsure about what exactly.
Secondly there is the matter of the goblins. The goblins being grown makes sense in a practical way but when it is stated that they have chosen to do so because breeding them by capturing female adventures was unrealistic.... it fits the sometimes dark bits of the show I suppose.
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Cryten
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 7:38 pm
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Why do Japanese insist on the idea of goblins being rapists? Is this something like how they associate goblins with oni and oni with ogres, despite quite a separation existing between species in the west. Something in the way they write their names and categorise them together.
This series really likes slipping in some casually horrible details among all its cuteness. EG previously talking about rapist adventurers and talking about all the monsters who have been killed by our main character.
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 1:12 am
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I blame the Goblin Slayer franchise because the base mythology or D&D that used it as reference never had goblins doing that and the Oni is the Japanese mythical being with behavior and habitation closest to Western "goblin" but again, I never heard that rape was a primary characteristic...Now, thanks to GS, this new lore has become well-known to anime viewers and so they use it here as an expectation to subvert, which is one base of the show's narrative...
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Edjwald
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:01 am
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Yeah, while not reaching Made in Abyss levels of darkness (for which my tender little heart is grateful) this anime about a kid whose parent went missing in a dungeon does have a weird edge that pokes out at weird times. But that's one of the things I like about it.
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:41 am
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The funny thing is... I think the cat was talking about Clay's real father.
As for the reproductive history of the goblins, the show made the situation worse for me. If they are being grown from plants, then why did that group want to mate with Clay?
And I guess I'm the only one who feels Clay's face of utter shock/disbelief should have come at the thought that Belle's master was personally kidnapping female adventurers so they could...
Master combined Goblins with plants because it was more convenient, not because of any moral reasons. Right...
Wait... what did Clay think she would find in the goblin camp?
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:56 am
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Animegomaniac wrote: | The funny thing is... I think the cat was talking about Clay's real father....
As for the reproductive history of the goblins, the show made the situation worse for me. If they are being grown from plants, then why did that group want to mate with Clay?
Wait... what did Clay think she would find in the goblin camp? |
The first part is a very interesting observation and something I didn't catch, upon rewatching Clay's inner monologue practically screams "Wind Slicer isn't her father" (unless the writer threw a Red Herring here). Hope they get more into that part of the backstory and I have a hunch her adoptive father really didn't "disappear" in the dungeon as supposed but may be off doing something else for the Thief's Guild...
The Goblin Brothers were introduced as "High Goblins" so I suppose that they aren't from the "grown" group which may explain their amorous inclinations, but at least the brother asked so I guess they aren't rapists...
If I were Clay, with so much about the dungeon's reality being unfamiliar, I would have no preconceptions about the goblin village but just take everything in. However, as she has heard rumors about the unsavory aspects of goblin life, I think her question/statement was more to confirm that those weren't actually the case as there don't seem to be any pregnant human women about...
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