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Vinland Saga's Makoto Yukimura Shares Opinion on Violence: 'Consider Attack on Titan'

ZiharkXVI wrote:

doctordoom85 wrote: ZiharkXVI wrote: Your opinion of fictional violence having no correlation is complete guesswork Well, by that logic, I could easily say Vinland Saga promotes violence simply because it has violence in it. Doesn’t matter if the author says otherwise, that doesn’t prove it objectively. See? It’s presumptuous to say any series promotes violence unless it flat out says it does. It comes off as slightly moral guardian-y, and lord knows that behavior most of us are beyond tired of. How about taking a stand against real violence, and not worry so much about the fictional story about people turning into kaiju and wrestling each other? And yes, CLEARLY the violence was what made AOT so popular. The animation, directing, music, characters, story, etc. were all clearly mostly irrelevant in it becoming popular. CLEARLY. You keep saying things I am not saying. I never said the story wasn't good, etc. I just stated fighting is what attracted the audience. They likely stayed because of competent writing. And I used the logic of "I don't know and neither do you". All I did was point out an opinion of yours on the correlation in interest (because you can't really prove/disprove it) and tell you yet again I didn't say that anime violence causes actual violence. I don't believe that to be true.

-no, you said it’s how it became popular. A show needs people to stick with it to be popular. So you did actually imply fighting alone is what kept people watching.

-that’s not even an opinion, how many more psychological studies need to confirm watching/playing violent media does not cause a person to commit violence? That’s not “complete guesswork” as you claimed if it has research backing it up.

The problem is you initially stated AOT revels in violence like it’s a fact not an opinion when both series have an anti-violence message yet also feature violence so ultimately it comes down to pure preference, and maybe making accusations towards another series isn’t a good way to get fans of said series interested in checking out the series you like. While it’s not as bad as the way some Bocchi the Rock fans behaved (gee, I wonder why I haven’t checked out the show a few fans felt the need to call Komi garbage purely for having a lead going through similar issues, and called Chainsaw Man overrated trash purely for daring to air the same seasons? Hmm, it’s almost like I really enjoy those two shows, and maybe don’t want to give a show a chance if a few of its fans feel the need to insult the things I like unnecessarily), it’s still not great. At least Yukimara himself didn’t directly insult or accuse AOT of anything, he just seemed to point out AOT happened to have more violence, but he never said it was being dishonest about its intentions.

at least they didn't use the "KILL EM ALL TOMINO STYLE" aspect when it comes to a violent and unforgiving world!

Not sure if I would call AoT anti violence, it's definitely anti war but I would argue that the series see violence as a tool.