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Uchay
Joined: 27 Nov 2016
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:03 pm
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tygerchickchibi wrote: | Seeing people in the FB comments asking to be compensated with...
...gems?
Such a strange world, man. |
People find reasons to ask for gems for anything so they can pull one more Debate Club
Anyhow, good riddance.
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harminia
Joined: 24 Aug 2015
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Location: australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:33 pm
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Big Kahuna wrote: | Whatever happened to due process? Has due process and the concept of innocence until proven guilty completely left the house and took a trip oversea? How would you feel if you get fired, even if it's because of bad publicity, but turns out you're are innocent, how is that lawful or just? May be due process is going to way of the do-do just like this fake democracy we practice in America. |
Buddy, the guy himself ADMITTED it was true. Even if his statement he didn't know they were underage was true, he was still being a massive creep to people and then repeatedly suicide baiting people heaps of times. That alone is enough for him to get fired from his job.
He's not innocent. He himself has said he is guilty. No one needs you trying to defend him here.
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Sheriru
Joined: 27 May 2016
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:58 pm
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Big Kahuna wrote: | Whatever happened to due process? Has due process and the concept of innocence until proven guilty completely left the house and took a trip oversea? How would you feel if you get fired, even if it's because of bad publicity, but turns out you're are innocent, how is that lawful or just? May be due process is going to way of the do-do just like this fake democracy we practice in America. |
Dude literally tried to apologize for it all lmao. Youre probably a Andrew Tate Supporter, yuck
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Mune
Joined: 20 May 2004
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Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 4:34 pm
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Big Kahuna wrote: | Whatever happened to due process? Has due process and the concept of innocence until proven guilty completely left the house and took a trip oversea? How would you feel if you get fired, even if it's because of bad publicity, but turns out you're are innocent, how is that lawful or just? May be due process is going to way of the do-do just like this fake democracy we practice in America. |
Uh...don't look at many other professions in the U.S., whereby if an accusation occurs, even if later proven false or the accusation is rescinded, the accused is still let go from their profession, especially if they have any potential contact with minors. They may not be able to work in that field ever again because of this. An example: a teacher.
The reasoning is that there have been instances of minors reporting abuse or other illegal actions, but not being believed. Later, there were more victims to such actions. Add in the calls for possible retaliation from family, friends, and/or community members to rescind an accusation, and it becomes a mess. If a person is found innocent, then years later accused again for a similar action, rumors start flying about the first accusation being true, but covered up. Rather than potentially looking bad down the road, they play it safe by condemning the action and distancing themselves from the accused.
I'm way off topic. I'm wondering who they will get to replace him. Any ideas?
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:06 pm
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ANN_Lynzee wrote: |
... the guy allegedly sent dick pics to minors. One of the alleged victims was 12. |
2023 and you got idiots acting like Anthony Weiner/Brett Favre
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strawberry_milk
Joined: 28 Feb 2020
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:14 pm
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Big Kahuna wrote: | Whatever happened to due process? Has due process and the concept of innocence until proven guilty completely left the house and took a trip oversea? How would you feel if you get fired, even if it's because of bad publicity, but turns out you're are innocent, how is that lawful or just? May be due process is going to way of the do-do just like this fake democracy we practice in America. |
You mention due process and American democracy, but forgot to mention the Nazis and invoke Godwin's Law.
But I guess 2 out of 3 straw men ain't bad.
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i got the shivers!
Joined: 30 Nov 2022
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Location: Brazil
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:44 pm
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How does the threatening self-harm thing work, actually? if I was abused by someone I think the person doing it killing themselves would be a great thing. Good riddance to trash, yes? Wanting your abuser to suffer seems like a natural thing for a victim. Whether it's imprisonment or death it's justice to a heinous crime.
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MyMasterMatthew
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:22 am
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i got the shivers! wrote: | How does the threatening self-harm thing work, actually? if I was abused by someone I think the person doing it killing themselves would be a great thing. Good riddance to trash, yes? Wanting your abuser to suffer seems like a natural thing for a victim. Whether it's imprisonment or death it's justice to a heinous crime. |
Unfortunately, guilt is a powerful tool. Even if you've done nothing wrong, a twisted person is more than capable of nurturing toxic emotions in your life that will build up and control you. At first, you don't realize what's going on. Otherwise, you'd hopefully cut ties immediately. The abuser will be on their best behavior, slowly earning your trust until they've secured a spot in your life that you feel is irreplaceable. You'll blame yourself for the things the abuser does. "He doesn't WANT to hurt me. I made him do that. After all, I looked at him the wrong way. I should have known better." Even if you think about escaping, a voice in the back of your head might play out the worst case scenarios. "What if he catches me?" If they've indoctrinated you long enough, you might hesitate... worry about the abuser... downplay your trauma. It's really, really sad.
So, long story short, from the perspective of a person on the outside looking in, it can be hard to relate. For the victim, threats work. Reading up on Stockholm syndrome might be a good place to start if you're interested in reading up on this sort of thing.
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onpufan
Joined: 22 Dec 2022
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:43 am
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tygerchickchibi wrote: | Seeing people in the FB comments asking to be compensated with...
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Such a strange world, man. |
People are just looking for any excuse to get free primos. They probably don't care at all about the issue.
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harminia
Joined: 24 Aug 2015
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:20 am
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i got the shivers! wrote: | How does the threatening self-harm thing work, actually? if I was abused by someone I think the person doing it killing themselves would be a great thing. Good riddance to trash, yes? Wanting your abuser to suffer seems like a natural thing for a victim. Whether it's imprisonment or death it's justice to a heinous crime. |
It's threatening them with guilt. "If I kill myself it'll be your fault and you'll essentially be a murderer because YOUR actions made me do this and you'll be the reason I die I hope you enjoy living your life knowing YOU killed me".
These people trusted him and thought they were close to him and a number of them shared their own self harm stories so it's basically hitting their weak points and guilt tripping them.
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crazieanimefan1
Joined: 18 Feb 2015
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Location: Auburn, AL
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:48 am
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I dunno if it was him or not, but he sounds like he's in the recent trailer. However, as they just announced this, they probably at the time hadn't recast yet, so can't really blame the company. It was probably done before this all started.
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