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MarshalBanana
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That's a very random number of episodes, why not start where Funiamtion ended at or maybe even start at the beginning given that it is with a different cast. Does something important happen between 965-974?
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BalmungHHQ
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This is only partially true. The primary trio of leads in Conan, Ran, and Kogoro do appear to retain their VA's from that dub cast, but all of the other characters appear to have totally different actors. Many of which I don't seem to recognize, so I'm kind of curious who they all are. The same can be said of the episodic cast: not many VA's I easily recognize by ear. Since these episodes have no English credits, it's still not entirely clear what the production situation is, but I think it's clear some concessions may have had to be made to justify the expense of continuing to dub the TV series. THAT BEING SAID, however, as a fan of the series this is huge news, and I'm so happy to hear newly dubbed episodes of the TV series at all! 
Starting with 2020's episodes is an odd place to start, but oh well, I'm not complaining. I honestly never thought we'd see any more of the TV series dubbed ever, so this is just such a wonderfully pleasant surprise for me, and I hope they can keep more episodes coming! On top of continuing the movie dubs with the full cast, of course. 
It is an odd place to start. Ep 965 is the first episode from 2020, so I think they just picked a year's group of episodes to start at. It is kind of an oddly fitting spot though, in terms of the "types" of variety of episodes the show offers. 965-968 are a 4-part anime-original featured case (a rare case of an anime-original story being given big promotion with so many episodes), 969 & 970 are a 2-part anime-original tourism-sponsored case (which Conan tends to have about once a year), and 971-974 are a 4-part case adapting some chapters from the original manga. Last edited by BalmungHHQ on Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:52 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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db999
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Glad it’s getting a new dub, but unfortunately, I don’t think it’s very good. I think it’s passable, and I really hope the characters get better. I think the actors for Conan and Ai are pretty good, but most are just ok. I’ve only checked out a few minutes of episode 971 and it wasn’t great. Still as a fan of the show, I'm glad it's getting another chance at getting English dubs
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MushroomMan674
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Not the episodes I personally would've started with (I would've either dubbed the Scarlet arc or the field trip arc) but...wow, this is nearly two decades in the making? It's finally something for Conan fans!
I think just about everyone including myself considered the main anime as "undubbable" due to its sheer length and heavy reliance on Japanese language and culture, but maybe that stigma is finally being abolished. |
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Spastic Minnow
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I really don't care for a dub one way or another. There are simply way too many Japanese language clues throughout the series for it to make sense for me.
But any added attention is welcome. The aspect I just can't get my mind around is why it is they don't, AT LEAST, make an effort to release all of the "remastered" episodes and specials that have been put out over the years. Those are the episodes the makers deem important enough to release in a better format (or merely important enough to rerun and call it a remaster). So why aren't these the ones that English companies try to release? |
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Chris Handsome
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I don't even know what is going on with Conan anymore and it's developments, but looks like there's been basically no progress since when it aired on Adult Swim and he's no closer to getting his body back.
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BalmungHHQ
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What do you mean? The beautiful HD remasters of the first 123 episodes have all been streaming on Crunchyroll for over a year now. True, Japan's episode count of the new remaster goes further, I believe, but in terms of the availability of the HD-remastered early episodes, they are easily accessible at this time. Now, if the core of your argument is just getting more episodes out in general from that big mid-series gap, I think we can all agree to that, lol. Especially if the remastered video is as great as the first 123 eps. (Though idk how much they can do with eps from the early digipaint era... basically eps between 284 and 452. I haven't personally seen how any remasters of eps from that group have turned out.)
Oh man... this is not even remotely true. The run of episodes on Adult Swim barely even scratched the surface of the tiniest starting line of the actual storyline of this series. There has been a ton of progress throughout varying different story arcs involving dozens of characters over the years. In fact, the anime is soon about to wrap up one of the longest-running story arcs yet this year. Gosho Aoyama has also gotten very good at always drip-feeding some tiny bit of new key information or character development in almost every new case in the original manga, so if anything Conan's formula has truly become perfected over the years. |
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ryonomiko
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[quote="BalmungHHQ"]
What do you mean? The beautiful HD remasters of the first 123 episodes have all been streaming on Crunchyroll for over a year now. True, Japan's episode count of the new remaster goes further, I believe, but in terms of the availability of the HD-remastered early episodes, they are easily accessible at this time. I believe Spastic Minnow is referring to the digital remaster episodes that have been done (in Japan, aired on TV) for years now. Dec 10-17, 2022, for example Ep130 and 131 aired on TV as diigtal remasters: https://www.ytv.co.jp/conan/archive/k20221217.html If you look at this YTV page you see R132 which is how many episodes that have been remastered, by YTV. The last remastered episode before this 2 parter was October 22, 2022: https://www.ytv.co.jp/conan/archive/k20221022.html It is labeled as R130. BUT the actual episode number is 165. BalmungHHQ, you saving Ep1-123 are remastered, ones CR added, are the Funimation licenced episodes. Any episode quality improvement wasn't done in Japan. The episodes aired on TV as digital remasters are quite random really, plenty of AO episodes not just manga based ones, as in does not seem to be based on the importance of the episode (BO arc ones, etc). Sometimes the ones done are related (by story or character) to upcoming episodes. Crunchyroll never shows these digital remasters (not even the previews for them) even though they air on TV in Japan as "new". I presume CR doesn't because CR doesn't have the licence for anything earlier than 754 (wish I wish wasn't the case). Very little of the TV episodes have been put out on Blu-ray in Japan (the DVD releases continue each year). Only the movies all have a Blu-ray release in Japan. |
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BalmungHHQ
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Oh, right. The TV reruns. Yeah, I'm aware of those and see what you mean. But as you said, those tend to be pretty random, and I wouldn't necessarily go to those as a primary source of "which episodes to bring over" or anything like that. They really are just TV reruns (even using the current OP & ED, instead of the actual material from the original airing. And in the case of older episodes, sometimes trimming content a bit for time.)
It's true that it's the same batch of episodes FUNi used to have, but in August 2021, the HD remasters which seem to be scanned from the original film were uploaded to CR. I believe the original source for those remasters was Netflix Japan. So these remasters actually were done in Japan, and their existence makes the TV rerun remasters kind of obsolete. Being able to get those remasters was a huge win for the international Conan community, because it was the first time eps 1-123 were able to be presented in our region in their purest form, even preserving the post-episode character exchanges, and Opening 2 and Ending 2 which used to be cut in the international masters TMS used to send out. I can only hope we eventually get episodes beyond 123 with those masters. (I don't know what episode Netflix Japan is currently at, but I know it's ahead.) |
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ryonomiko
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YTV not stopped with the remasters -- theirs not the Netflix versions using?? To air on TV... So some value (benefit those who can't/don't have Netflix?) must still have. The digital remaster episodes have jumped all over (I'd have to dig through all my older HTML pages for my site although there's a list compiled somewhere already I presume) (some past ones Netflix has done so far??) in from earliest to not so early.
Ahhh, right, sorry, I forgot about Netflix Japan airing Conan episodes. And 1-123 been available (still is? I only do Netflix a month here and there and titles come and go so much) in North America too. No clue where Netflix Japan is at... Disc release of theese remasters I'd prefer instead of just streaming access to pay for. |
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Ryuji-Dono
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So I heard this could be another Miami-based dub just with the involvement of Wendee Lee and Cristina Vee as special guests.
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BalmungHHQ
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Do you have any source confirming this, or is it just a hunch? I had considered the possibility myself, but I'm not really familiar with that talent pool so I really couldn't say for sure on my own. It's certainly a possibility, but it could just as easily be recorded in any other obscure location. Also, like I said before, Conan, Ran, and Kogoro's voices all carry over from the film's dubs, so Xander Mobus would likely be among the group of selected returnees you mentioned as well. |
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db999
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That's not quite true the main plot has actually progressed pretty far at this point. I’m not sure about the anime, but in the manga at least spoiler[we know who everybody in the Black Organization is. Conan and his allies know who the head of the organization is, and we the audience know who the number 2 in the organization is at this point.] Don’t get me wrong, the show doesn’t move quickly, but it’s not like nothing happens or progresses for a long time. Note the anime is almost half anime-only filler, so if you skip those the show is closer to 500 episodes than it is to 1000. |
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Spastic Minnow
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The majority are really remastered, to some degree, and the majority are key plot episodes, I don't know why they wouldn't be considered a good place to at least start. Episodes post-300 were not truly remastered, but they are mainly important cases. Presented randomly at time of showing, but not randomly chosen. Granted, they've remastered a few too many anime-original ones in the last few years. But mostly in the earliest seasons. Let's break it down (according to episode list at Detective Conan World. 138 episodes that they present as "remastered" The least essential to me are the 14 that really are reruns- and recent, post 754 (minus 14= 124) Then the hefty chunk before 123, although they may be unique remasters, they have been made available here. (minus 54= 70) This is the key number to me: 70 episodes not available legally to a NA audience in any form- that the Conan anime creators have singled out as worthy of presenting as something special. Something Conan fans would want to see again. 29 are not really remastered, according to DCW. But they are thought to be special enought to rerun in a country that doesn't normally do reruns. If you don't think they should count, subtract TV originals in eps.123-754 (minus 15= 55) non-remastered manga chapter episodes (minus 23= 32). So, at the very least, 32 truly remastered manga-centric episodes from the giant dead spot the U.S. doesn't have. In my opinion, 70 episodes is the real number. Also remember that some of these are 1 hour specials- or longer. The only time DCW notes significant cuts is in a rebroadcast of a post 754 series. Cutting 5 episodes to 4... for some dumb reason. We got em' so I don't care as much. *not actually remastered... everything after 300 1&2 (first revist), 4, 5, 9, 10, 12, 16, 17, 18, 21, 22-23, 27-28, 31, 37, 38, 39-40, 42,43, 45, 46, 47, 50, 57-58, 63, 68-70, 72, 75, 76, 79, 80, 81-82, 84-85, 87, 91, 97, 98-99 100-101, 102-103, 107-108, 112, 119, 130-131 (soccer one, also rerun in 2022), 135-137, 143, 148, 153-154, 158, 165, 166-168, 176-178, 182, 184, 199-200, 219, 220-221, 222-224, 235, 242, 252, 273, 279-280, 281, 286-288, 304*, 307-308*, 309-311*, 356*, 394-396*, 340-341*, 384*, 405*, 425* (cut into 4 regular sized episodes), 426*, 460*, 469-470*, 537-538*, 631*, 675-676*[2020], 688*[2020], 738-741*[2020] ,746-747*, 779-783*, 785-786*[2020] , 791*, 804-805*[2020] , 836-837*, 881-882*[2020] |
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PurpleWarrior13
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What’s weird is that TMS required FUNi to Americanize all the character names and now they’re dubbing the show with the Japanese names. I wish we had a dub that could truly be a continuation of what we had before. I have no desire to watch the whole series, but I’d love to watch the plot-important episodes after where FUNi left off. Also, I mean no disrespect to the Bang Zoom voice actors, but I’m way too used to FUNi’s cast to imagine anyone else voicing those characters in English (especially Jerry Jewell, Colleen Clinkenbeard, and R Bruce Elliott).
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