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3ngag3
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 Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:59 pm
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See, this is the kind of thing Pokemon/Game Freak/Nintendo should be shutting down.
Awful NFT cash grab ripoffs with poor translations.
Not free fan-made hacks that were made with care and intent to pay homage to the series.
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:08 pm
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Good, that game is a scam in of itself with it being NFT based.
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Ryuji-Dono
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 5:35 pm
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| 3ngag3 wrote: | | See, this is the kind of thing Pokemon/Game Freak/Nintendo should be shutting down.
Awful NFT cash grab ripoffs with poor translations.
Not free fan-made hacks that were made with care and intent to pay homage to the series. |
That's on Nintendo tho.
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Blazi
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:23 pm
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Good.
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Los Nido
Joined: 26 Jun 2022
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:44 pm
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| 3ngag3 wrote: | | See, this is the kind of thing Pokemon/Game Freak/Nintendo should be shutting down.
Awful NFT cash grab ripoffs with poor translations.
Not free fan-made hacks that were made with care and intent to pay homage to the series. |
Both of them are copyright infringement and do damage to their brand They should go after both of them.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:52 pm
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This must be awkward for Sarah Natochenny.
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King Chicken
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:10 pm
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| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | This must be awkward for Sarah Natochenny. |
As far as I could tell she's not affiliated with this game in anyway. What's the relation to her?
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Gypsy Magic
Joined: 22 Dec 2022
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:31 pm
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| King Chicken wrote: |
| Cardcaptor Takato wrote: | | This must be awkward for Sarah Natochenny. |
As far as I could tell she's not affiliated with this game in anyway. What's the relation to her? |
I'm sure he's referring to the fact Natochenny was the subject of a harassment campaign about a year ago because she didn't find anything wrong with NFTs and refused to denounce them. He's probably thinking that since a bootleg NFT thing exists, it must make her look bad because... someone else did a bad thing and not her. Yeah, doesn't make any sense to me either.
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:53 pm
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| Gypsy Magic wrote: | |
I'm sure he's referring to the fact Natochenny was the subject of a harassment campaign about a year ago because she didn't find anything wrong with NFTs and refused to denounce them. He's probably thinking that since a bootleg NFT thing exists, it must make her look bad because... someone else did a bad thing and not her. Yeah, doesn't make any sense to me either. |
That is not what happened.
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Mako_91
Joined: 22 Dec 2022
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 8:38 pm
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| Los Nido wrote: |
| 3ngag3 wrote: | | See, this is the kind of thing Pokemon/Game Freak/Nintendo should be shutting down.
Awful NFT cash grab ripoffs with poor translations.
Not free fan-made hacks that were made with care and intent to pay homage to the series. |
Both of them are copyright infringement and do damage to their brand They should go after both of them. |
How are fan-made hacks doing damage to their brand? Just a genuine question.
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PyrosAWX
Joined: 14 Jul 2012
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:10 pm
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| Mako_91 wrote: |
| Los Nido wrote: |
| 3ngag3 wrote: | | See, this is the kind of thing Pokemon/Game Freak/Nintendo should be shutting down.
Awful NFT cash grab ripoffs with poor translations.
Not free fan-made hacks that were made with care and intent to pay homage to the series. |
Both of them are copyright infringement and do damage to their brand They should go after both of them. |
How are fan-made hacks doing damage to their brand? Just a genuine question. |
They start doing damage to the brand when people start believing they are official products. It's easy to know which one is official and which one is fan-made when you know the series, but when you don't know anything about the series, or about video games in general, is can become hard to differentiate them. From a parent searching the web to find a suitable present, to a politician that want to talk big with knowing little, there are many situations when the fan-made product can hurt the main series even without wanting to.
Companies rather want to be safe than sorry about it, so they tend to shutdown the fan-made hacks as soon as they become "too known".
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Los Nido
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:50 pm
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| Mako_91 wrote: | | How are fan-made hacks doing damage to their brand? Just a genuine question. |
Ignoring the actual legal reasons like protecting your copyright and art assets these games always use and break, just the concept of fangames and hacks dilute the brand. Making it harder for people to find the legitimate games, low quality fan games making it appear as if the games are amateur and shoddily built with no quality control, hacks with objectionable content in them that the company doesn't want to associate with like pornography sprites or extreme political views, and similar things. The world of romhacking is an anarchist's playground. I've played some romhacks myself, but from a company's perspective it's a very bad thing if someone finds a "Pokemon Dark Fire Red" game online and kids play it and it's a romhack full of stuff glorfying something like communism or has sex scenes or something and people think it's an official NIntendo/Gamefreak title promoting that stuff. Bad PR all around. And there's a lot of edgelord romhacks for games out there.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:06 pm
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No one has ever found a random-ass romhack or mod out there and thought "this is an official Nintendo product that I could buy at Walmart." It's just a silly strawman.
That aside, complete lol at this case. Did they think they somehow weren't going to get their asses royally sued?
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icomeanon6
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 11:09 pm
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Unauthorized NFT games (read: unauthorized NFT scams) are clearly on another level from fan games and ROM hacks because they're actively trying to make a (usually fraudulent) business out of someone else's property. That said, fan games and romhacks do enter an uncomfortable opportunity cost gray area. The conventional wisdom is that a rising tide lifts all boats so fan content helps franchises on the aggregate, but one can still see how a company might balk at the air of "Get the features Game Freak won't give you here!" that permeates the ROM-hacking community. They don't want something that can be construed as a free alternative or improvement over their own games drawing eyes.
I'm still in favor of fan content for franchises like Pokemon, including hacks and fan games, but I do think the best etiquette for fan stuff is to keep it to places where other fans have to go out of their way to find it. In other words, rethink making a YouTube trailer. Try to stay off of the front page of Kotaku. It really is a "what Nintendo doesn't know won't hurt them" situation, because if Nintendo doesn't know about it, neither does anyone who isn't already a pretty committed fan. Then Nintendo's cause to worry about image damage or lost revenue drops from "low" to "basically none."
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King Chicken
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 12:14 am
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| Top Gun wrote: | | No one has ever found a random-ass romhack or mod out there and thought "this is an official Nintendo product that I could buy at Walmart." It's just a silly strawman. |
I mean, people get duped by buying bootlegs of any product all the time, especially the non-tech savvy generations.. I can assure you there are parents or guardians who mistake fan content for official works all the time. But even if there weren't, companies want to be absolutely clear they do not endorse anything they don't put out or say themselves. Do you recall when Nintendo had to make a statement that they did not support Animal Crossing being used for political messages when the Biden Administration used it to promote their election campaign with an island people could visit? People thought that was part of the official game and Nintendo had to clarify it wasn't.
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