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Scias
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This was in 2017, you don't get caught with so much CP that the police thought that you were a major distributor and just need to catch a break and say "whoops sorry, i guess". Extremely weird of you to say this. He is a pedophile who got a slap on the wrist when he should have been convicted and imprisoned for life. |
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Los Nido
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I don't know if I agree with this. Just because someone is a criminal doesn't mean they can't make good films. I don't get people trying to insist only "good" people can make "good" works. All it leads to is people cherishing mediocrity from unproblematic creators for the sake of their principles. Everyone is worse off for it, especially the people who try to convince themselves to settle for bad books, shows, comedians, movies, and games and deny themselves quality entertainment. I'm always open to the idea of letting individuals make their own decisions rather than forcing a choice upon them. If there's enough people willing to support Rurouni Kenshin and have since forgiven Watsuki and are willing to support him again then I see no issue here. I would always choose to be given a choice than have one made for me by someone else. |
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flamemasterelan
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Literally nobody is insisting that. There's a difference between acknowledging someone's work and celebrating an unrepentant child predator. It's not a fine line, so don't try to obscure it.
Alternatively, we could have good art from people who don't buy child porn or rape children. That's always an option. |
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Spike Terra
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Kenshin has a male seiyu now, looks like Watsuki is losing a bit of his creative control over the project. That's always good thing in my book. Edit: Yeah I was pretty wrong with this assumption, so please ignore it
RK was my first Samurai anime and it made me fall in love with the genre as a whole. I own the manga and I have seen the original anime as well as the "not good" Samurai X OVAs. So I'll watch this reboot but I have no intent to support any more RK works on a financial level that isn't my CR account. On a side note, I was not expecting Rie Takahashi to play Kaoru, honestly I thought she would fit more Yahiko. But I think she will do a great job in the role. Looking forward to more cast announcements. Last edited by Spike Terra on Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:52 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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SHD
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It's going to be quite a thing if this happens every time ANN reports on the show... there's going to be more news as the launch date nears, and then it's going to air weekly...
My own two cents is that it's an absolute shame that Watsuki got off with a slap on the wrist because the Kenshin movies were making too much money to be ~besmirched~ (  ), and while I'm probably going to check out the show and maybe even watch it and talk about it, he's not going to see a single yen of royalty on my account. That being said, clearly the show is happening and people are going to talk about it, and this kind of circular flamewar is not productive whatsoever, and it's killing any actual discussion regarding both Watsuki himself, and the show on its own.
I think ANN should really come up with, and release, a policy about this, otherwise this forum, and ANN's social media presence, is going to blow up sooner or later... |
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Blanchimont
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Watsuki is supervising the scenario and casting of this adaptation, so I don't think his creative control is lacking... |
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GasterTheGreat
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How did you extrapolate that? When Fruits Basket got a new anime Natsuki Takaya wanted an entirely new voice cast and she got it. Perhaps Watsuki wanted a new cast as well. It's a very common practice with remakes even if English localizers sometimes ignore the creator's wishes and cast the old actors to chase the nostalgia audience more. Every source available seems to suggest Watsuki is in control so I see no reason to think otherwise. It is his series, after all. |
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Lord Geo
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It's also worth nothing that Kenshin's voice from all anime & games prior, Mayo Suzukaze, is NOT a traditional voice actor, but rather is a film & stage actress first, so it's also possible that she could have some contract issues when it comes to reprising her role for an entire TV series now. A short OVA series or a video game is one thing, but a TV series is another thing entirely.
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Joker#941490
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most people don't want to give him a chance since japan didn't punish him as should be but maybe just maybe his friends and oda helped him to quit it but i guess everyone wants to think of the worst than the best. |
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NebulousNeon
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Would you want your kid around someone convicted of owning child porn if they were arrested for it a few years ago? I assume not. If you do it once in America it doesn't matter how sorry you are of if you renounce it immediately after getting caught; a lower tier violation easily nets you ten years on the registry at the very least. It doesn't really matter anyway considering after Watsuki got arrested he showed no remorse and doubled down on his opinions in his deposition. Are you really shocked people think you shouldn't give him the benefit of the doubt? |
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SenseiAgot
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As a huge fan a reboot is welcomed, but I would have been happy with them just adapting the last arc of the original manga, that was never done because the series was cancelled back in the day. |
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SenseiAgot
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I mean, the issue is much bigger than Watsuki. He was punished according to japanese laws and given the chance to atone (much like Kenshin in a way). But the laws are certainly lax. We also don't know how BAD the material actually was or the cirscunstances of the adquisition of that crap. There's also the fact that that material used to be legal in Japan, which open a whole new set of questions regarding japanese lawmakers. |
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flamemasterelan
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That's because most people know that you don't quit being a pedophile. It's not like being a smoker or a drinker where you can pick it up casually and quit it cold turkey. It's a mental disorder that requires years but more likely decades of therapy to manage, but it's not something that can be cured. And frankly, we have no reason to believe that the man who announced his age of attraction when he got caught with child porn actually is seeking out treatment, considering his losses were minimal.
How do we not know enough? They traced the purchases of child pornography to Watsuki, meaning he purchased child pornography after the law was passed and they discovered him with enough content that they suspected him of distributing it. Even if the bulk of his collection was from before it was made illegal, he chose to keep it and not hand it in during the grace period that the Japanese government offered in which you could hand in such paraphernalia without consequence. What more do you want to know? Do you want to know the level of exploitation that the elementary to middle school girls in his videos and photos endured? How does that make it any better? Look, it's one thing if you guys want to watch the show and don't care. But stop bending yourselves into pretzels to defend a convicted and confessed child predator. If it bothers you that much to know what he is, then maybe you aren't able to "separate the art from the artist" after all. |
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cookiemanstah
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the fact he's supervising the anime in any capacity is something I didn't know. That makes it even worse.
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Spike Terra
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It was more an assumption if anything. I remember reading back in the day, Watsuki insisted on Kenshin being played by a woman, the manga itself focuses on Kenshin's femininity at multiple points. So I assumed the studio rejected his preference for seiyuu. That's as far as it goes, I might even be misremembering the information I am citing. Heck, apparently he's in charge of casting, so I think I'm super wrong. Fun thought, that since it has been over 25 years since RK first aid, I would find the idea of trying to bring back the old cast to be quite the herculean task. |
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