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Thespacemaster
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 1:15 pm
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They should of researched other options instead of relying on just one source to ease there financial strains, any good business would not rely on just one market.
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AkumaChef
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:02 pm
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Thespacemaster wrote: | They should of researched other options instead of relying on just one source to ease there financial strains, any good business would not rely on just one market. |
I totally agree, but in this particular industry and time period that's very difficult. The rise of online content has decimated the market for magazines and newspapers, meanwhile E-books have had a similar effect on physical books.
It sounds like it really was Comket's cancellation which killed them. The article mentions a "drop in sales" yet the data provided calculates out to less than a 1% change. Either they've been on the verge of bankruptcy since 2003 or Comiket publishers really were the core of their business.
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jdnation
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 2:28 pm
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Thespacemaster wrote: | They should of researched other options instead of relying on just one source to ease there financial strains, any good business would not rely on just one market. |
That's easy to say, but many businesses rely on big events for a significant portion of their income. When you specilize in one kind of service, then there's not much else you can 'expand' to.
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Hoppy800
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 3:13 pm
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AkumaChef wrote: |
Thespacemaster wrote: | They should of researched other options instead of relying on just one source to ease there financial strains, any good business would not rely on just one market. |
I totally agree, but in this particular industry and time period that's very difficult. The rise of online content has decimated the market for magazines and newspapers, meanwhile E-books have had a similar effect on physical books.
It sounds like it really was Comket's cancellation which killed them. The article mentions a "drop in sales" yet the data provided calculates out to less than a 1% change. Either they've been on the verge of bankruptcy since 2003 or Comiket publishers really were the core of their business. |
It's probably both, digital doujinshi has been a thing for quite a while and paper was suffering since the turn of the millennium, heck I stopped reading the newspaper when online news outlets were first established.
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Kougeru
Joined: 13 May 2008
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 6:08 pm
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Quote: | The company was already suffering financial difficulties due to the decline in demand for paper products in recent years |
As with most so far, this was just a bankruptcy made earlier than it would've been. They had a slim future as it was. Can't really put your eggs in one basket when that basket is falling apart as is.
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nargun
Joined: 29 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 1:11 am
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Kougeru wrote: |
Quote: | The company was already suffering financial difficulties due to the decline in demand for paper products in recent years |
As with most so far, this was just a bankruptcy made earlier than it would've been. They had a slim future as it was. Can't really put your eggs in one basket when that basket is falling apart as is. |
To point out: to a person with a passing understanding of changing trends in paper usage, it is of course reasonably obvious that the shift into supplies for doujin printing was itself originally a response to the decline in the market for fancy letter-paper.
[don't have a passing understanding of changing trends in paper usage? Then maybe-perhaps the world isn't ready for your pontifications on the bankruptcy of a paper company. mattaku.]
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Top Gun
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 3:24 am
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Yikes...imagine staking the future of your company on printing amateur nerd porn.
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OrangeVision
Joined: 24 May 2006
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 6:03 am
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Quote: | ...a million yen decline from the same month in 2003. |
150,000,000 yen decline, I presume article was talking about the value in dollars.
Quote: | The doujinshi convention was originally scheduled to take place from May to 5. |
Something weird going on here too.
EDIT: Also the yahoo news link is pretty suspicious, I wouldn't click on it. It redirects to a spam site.
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Kisuke525
Joined: 05 Nov 2019
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 12:44 pm
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Top Gun wrote: | Yikes...imagine staking the future of your company on printing amateur nerd porn. |
VERY foolish to think that all doujinshi is porn. There are tons of doujinshi that have no sexual content at all.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 2:28 pm
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Kisuke525 wrote: |
VERY foolish to think that all doujinshi is porn. There are tons of doujinshi that have no sexual content at all. |
I'm well aware of that, but we all know just what drives the Comiket foot traffic.
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Kisuke525
Joined: 05 Nov 2019
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 3:41 pm
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Top Gun wrote: |
Kisuke525 wrote: |
VERY foolish to think that all doujinshi is porn. There are tons of doujinshi that have no sexual content at all. |
I'm well aware of that, but we all know just what drives the Comiket foot traffic. |
Sorry. Your comment made you come across like someone who didn't know. And while the sexual doujinshi are a large reason people go many people do go just for the non sexual stuff and very mildly sexual stuff.
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Frog-kun
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Posted: Sun May 24, 2020 11:56 pm
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OrangeVision wrote: |
Quote: | ...a million yen decline from the same month in 2003. |
150,000,000 yen decline, I presume article was talking about the value in dollars.
Quote: | The doujinshi convention was originally scheduled to take place from May to 5. |
Something weird going on here too.
EDIT: Also the yahoo news link is pretty suspicious, I wouldn't click on it. It redirects to a spam site. |
Updated the source link and the typos. Thanks for pointing that out.
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Mon May 25, 2020 11:29 am
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Kougeru wrote: |
Quote: | The company was already suffering financial difficulties due to the decline in demand for paper products in recent years |
As with most so far, this was just a bankruptcy made earlier than it would've been. They had a slim future as it was. Can't really put your eggs in one basket when that basket is falling apart as is. |
But sometimes you don't have a choice. If you can't win more profitable customers, you have to live with what you can get.
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